View Poll Results: What kind of rule would be best for a Christian Jerusalem?

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  • Indepepdent Western-style state: a Kingdom of Jerusalem, or Republic of Jerusalem, or something like that

    32 50.79%
  • Independent state, ruled by the Native Christians: an Assyrian State or Christian Palestinian State.

    18 28.57%
  • British colony (Mandate of Jerusalem)

    4 6.35%
  • Italian colony

    3 4.76%
  • Greek colony

    6 9.52%
  • Armenian rule

    5 7.94%
  • German colony

    3 4.76%
  • Russian colony

    3 4.76%
  • Bulgarian rule

    0 0%
  • French colony

    5 7.94%
  • Spanish/Portuguese colony

    3 4.76%
  • Papal rule: rule from the Vatican (Jerusalem as part of the Vatican State)

    19 30.16%
  • Something else (e.g. Hungarian/Romanian/Serbian/etc rule)

    8 12.70%
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Thread: A Christian Jerusalem - who should rule it?

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    A Christian Kingdom, governed by some Palestinian Christian Noble house or by the descendants of Godfrey de Bouillon.
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    The temporal power for France and timeless for Vatican because France is the "elder daughter of the church", traditionally the protector of the Christians of the middle-east, was also the leading nation during the crusades to Palestine and already own 4 territories in Jerusalem such as St Anne's church on the top of the mount of olives and the tombs of the kings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawalye View Post
    The temporal power for France and timeless for Vatican because France is the "elder daughter of the church", traditionally the protector of the Christians of the middle-east, was also the leading nation during the crusades to Palestine and already own 4 territories in Jerusalem such as St Anne's church on the top of the mount of olives and the tombs of the kings.
    However medieval French kings were too weak and poor to send real military power to the Holy Land. King Andrew II of Hungary raised 30,000 strong crusader army in the 5th crusade. French and English royal crusader army had only half of that size.

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    Although, the first crusade was leaded by southern frenchs (Raymond of Toulouse), northern frenchs (normans) and flemish. Nobody can deny that crusades were conceived and launched in France, in spite of Philip I of France didn't support it, because had been excommunicated.
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    I'd say ruled by Palestinian Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
    However medieval French kings were too weak and poor to send real military power to the Holy Land. King Andrew II of Hungary raised 30,000 strong crusader army in the 5th crusade. French and English royal crusader army had only half of that size.
    ''Medieval French Kings were weak'', ahahahah, can I remind you that you are Hungarian. France was busy fighting the Cathars in Southern France at the time and had been in war with England for 12 years, who was allied with the Holy Roman Empire and Flanders. Most of the crusaders were of French initiatives, Hungary played such an important role in the crusades...

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    Why stop at Jerusalem?

    All former Christian lands that became Muslim.

    North Africa, Turkey and even Iraq (Which was once part of Christian Rome) should all be Christians again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carignan View Post
    ''Medieval French Kings were weak'', ahahahah, can I remind you that you are Hungarian. France was busy fighting the Cathars in Southern France at the time and had been in war with England for 12 years, who was allied with the Holy Roman Empire and Flanders. Most of the crusaders were of French initiatives, Hungary played such an important role in the crusades...
    I remind you that medieval France was not a first class military power. MEdieval French kings has usually small army, and low inland revenues. They ruled a puzzle country with relative feudal anarchy until the era of absolutism.

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    Christianity promotes multiculturalism and mixing, so I'm very much against it.

    Jerusalem belongs to Israel and the Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selurong View Post
    Why stop at Jerusalem?

    All former Christian lands that became Muslim.

    North Africa, Turkey and even Iraq (Which was once part of Christian Rome) should all be Christians again.
    It's Deus vult time!

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