Which ancient People do you consider as true Aryan ?

[papa diddy pop]

When I say Aryan, I mean Aryan in the late-19th century sense to describe people of Proto-Indo-European heritage as a racial grouping. Not the specific Indo-European who migrated in India. And today these people are long gone since nobody is fully Aryan, everyone is mixed but some people do retain more of ancient Aryan heritage than others. So who were the real ancient Aryan for you ? For many it's the steppes component aka Yamnaya or Sredny Stog II, some it's Corded Ware. Some even EHG. And for some wokist scholar it's CHG or even Iran_neholitic


And you what's your opinion ?

Steppes (Yamnaya, Srendy stog II)
Corded-Ware (steppes + some EEF)
EHG
CHG
ANE
WHG
EEF
Iran_Neholitic

[ugochaves]

When I say Aryan, I mean Aryan in the late-19th century sense to describe people of Proto-Indo-European heritage as a racial grouping. Not the specific Indo-European who migrated in India. And today these people are sredniy stog nobody is fully Aryan, everyone is mixed but some people do retain more of ancient Aryan heritage than others. So who were the real ancient Aryan for you ? For many it's the steppes component aka Yamnaya or Sredny Stog II, some it's Corded Ware. Some even EHG. And for some wokist scholar it's CHG or even Iran_neholitic


And you what's your opinion ?

Steppes (Yamnaya, Srendy stog II)
Corded-Ware (steppes + some EEF)
EHG
CHG
ANE
WHG
EEF
Iran_Neholitic

Good topic. Probably the Balts, Western European Finno-Ugrians, Eastern Slavs and Scandinavians. Sredniy stog is not the main Aryan ancestors. Cordware is the most Aryan and fatyanovo. In the Finnish languages, the word orya-slave arose. Apparently the Finns took a lot of slaves from the Fatyan culture.

[ugochaves]

The main ancestors of the Indo-Europeans are representatives of the Ane-ehg-Khvalyn culture. Chg is just an admixture from stolen wives. Obviously, our ancestors staged military raids into the Caucasus Mountains to hunt women. Cossacks and Vikings did the same. In ancient times, Europeans were more warlike than the inhabitants of the North Caucasus. They had a tribal system that united militant groups of Indo-European men who were related by blood. Surprisingly, Indo-Europeans have almost no male haplogroups of the Caucasus. The militancy of the Indo-Europeans was stopped by the infusion of groups of farmers planting beans. Communicating with farmers, we needed glasses and toilet paper. Up to this point, our ancestors wiped their belligerent ass with stones. Our bodies have become too tender, unable to fight.

[papa diddy pop]

Good topic. Probably the Balts, Western European Finno-Ugrians, Eastern Slavs and Scandinavians. Sredniy stog is not the main Aryan ancestors. Cordware is the most Aryan and fatyanovo. In the Finnish languages, the word orya-slave arose. Apparently the Finns took a lot of slaves from the Fatyan culture.

Sredny stog being the ancestor of Corded Ware and Yamnaya combined make him the perfect aryan urheimat but Indo-european being so strong today is thanks to Corded-ware, not so much yamnaya but corded ware people were tainted by EEF blood

[ugochaves]

Sredny stog being the ancestor of Corded Ware and Yamnaya combined make him the perfect aryan urheimat but Indo-european being so strong today is thanks to Corded-ware, not so much yamnaya but corded ware people were tainted by EEF blood

Sredniy Stog has more farmer than cordware. Is not it so? (In G25 - sredniy stog has more farmers, that is, it is a late crop or a secondary one) I think that the ancestors of Europeans passed through the bottleneck and were invisible in the Bronze Age. We have to find them. They were the smartest ass of all the Indo-Europeans. We need to find the ancestors of r1a and r1b with modern subclades or ancestral to them.

[ugochaves]

Clumsy translation. I spoke differently. Sredniy stog have its own ancestors, who will have our haplogroups. Perhaps our ancestors are converts from ehg or farmers. Then there is no point in cordware and pit culture. This is a wild mixture that is impossible to understand. I'm leaning towards cordware, because we have the greatest similarity in autosomes. Sredniy stog gives scanty participation among the most Indo-European people - Finns and Balts.

[kingmob]

Historically, Aryans were named as the Achaemenids Iranics who then became known as the Medes after Medea becoming their queen when she left Athens.

Herodotos: οἱ δὲ Μῆδοι ἄρχοντα μὲν παρείχοντο Τιγράνην ἄνδρα Ἀχαιμενίδην, ἐκαλέοντο δὲ πάλαι πρὸς πάντων Ἄριοι, ἀπικομένης δὲ Μηδείης τῆς Κολχίδος ἐξ Ἀθηνέων ἐς τοὺς ...

Nothing to do with the groups you mentioned, they are a linguistic designation.

[papa diddy pop]

Sredniy Stog has more farmer than cordware. Is not it so? (In G25 - sredniy stog has more farmers, that is, it is a late crop or a secondary one) I think that the ancestors of Europeans passed through the bottleneck and were invisible in the Bronze Age. We have to find them. They were the smartest ass of all the Indo-Europeans. We need to find the ancestors of r1a and r1b with modern subclades or ancestral to them.

Do you read ancient dna studies or eurogenes blog ? Many sredny stog remain were Yamnaya like without farmer influx. Many croded were mixed too but on average it's fair to say Sredni stog was less mixed.

[papa diddy pop]

Historically, Aryans were named as the Achaemenids Iranics who then became known as the Medes after Medea becoming their queen when she left Athens.

οἱ δὲ Μῆδοι ἄρχοντα μὲν παρείχοντο Τιγράνην ἄνδρα Ἀχαιμενίδην, ἐκαλέοντο δὲ πάλαι πρὸς πάντων Ἄριοι, ἀπικομένης δὲ Μηδείης τῆς Κολχίδος ἐξ Ἀθηνέων ἐς τοὺς ...

Nothing to do with the groups you mentioned, they are a linguistic designation.

Well, you know word can have different meaning, Why don't read the first post ? When I say Aryan, I mean Aryan in the late-19th century sense to describe people of Proto-Indo-European heritage as a racial grouping

[kingmob]

I mean Aryan in the late-19th century sense

Cringe.