Prigozhin killed in plane crash

[♥ Lily ♥]

I'm still waiting for official confirmation from Russian officials that Prigozhin is dead, because he's known to fake his death in the past - such as when it was claimed that he'd previously "died" in a plane crash in Africa.

Russian officials are carefully conducting an investigation and taking DNA samples before confirming if he's really dead.

The western media are already pointing their finger and blaming "Putin! Putin! Putin!" before investigations have been completed. Just like the western media falsely accused President Putin of blowing-up his own Nord Stream gas pipes (instead of turning off the tap) - which was totally illogical, and proven as an absurd lie.

It's very strange timing for President Putin if he wanted to eliminate Prigozhin and bring the memory of Prigozhin's coup attempt up again - especially during the BRICS summit.

Prigozhin was not a threat to President Putin, because very few people supported his coup attempt - which collapsed in less than 48 hours.

[♥ Lily ♥]

It could be any of numerous three letter agencies who would kill Prigozhin, as he had a lot of enemies all over Russia, as well as many enemies all across the West too.

Someone clearly wanted to disrupt the BRICS summit and cause a rift and divisions in Russia - so it's unlikely to be President Putin - and it's suspicious that the western media are rushing to pin the blame upon President Putin before an investigation is even completed. Western intelligence agencies frequently project, distract, and deflect from themselves.

Some Wagner fighters are blaming President Putin, but it's not logical for President Putin to do this and kill innocent Wagner members as well, when there's plenty of other and more simpler ways of eliminating Prigozhin - and certainly not during a BRICS summit - the worst timing.

It could easily be the CIA - who are well-known to assassinate generals and leaders around the world - such as the CIA's assassination of General Soleimani, for example.

It could be the SBU - the Zelensky regime are still bitter about the loss of Artemovsk / Bakhmut, and are also well-known for bragging about conducting a lot of assassinations of high-ranking Russian journalists, etc, over the last year.

It could be the Polish - who are angry with Wagner over the issues between Belarus and Poland.

It could be the French - who are angry with Prigozhin's recent statements about how Wagner PMC will soon kick-out the western colonialists in Africa.

It could be an internal power-struggle within Wagner PMC itself. They have some people with criminal backgrounds amongst them - and a lot of them are furious with Prigozhin for dividing Wagner after his recent coup attempt in Russia.

It could be a Russian oligarch who was involved in supporting Prigozhin's recent mutiny / coup attempt, who wants a key witness eliminated.

It could be anyone from a long list of suspects.

Or it could also be a genuine accidental plane crash.

And it's also possible too that Prigozhin would fake his own death, given his eccentric and theatrical character, and because he's faked his death before, and Russian officials found numerous fake passport ID's and a variety of different coloured wigs that they showed on video when they searched through Prigozhin's apartment, shortly after his failed coup attempt - which had very little public support - so he wasn't any threat to President Putin as few people supported the coup attempt.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Alex and Alexander did an intense and thorough analysis of the long, long, list of suspects and enemies from across Russia, as well as his many enemies from across the West who want Prigozhin dead.

Of course, the western media will jump to blame "Putin! Putin! Putin!" before an investigation is even conducted - which is also very suspicious behaviour.

[Loki]

Oh dear! I banned the sockpuppet Aldric, and automatically deleted all 49 of his posts...but I didn't realize that he was the thread creator of the topic about Prigozhin's death...and therefore accidentally that whole thread was deleted Sorry guys, an oversight!

[Loki]

Lily, I raised many of these exact points that you lay out so expertly here, in a post in that thread that was unfortunately accidentally deleted. I have also come to strongly doubt that Putin was involved in Prigozhin's death (if he is indeed deceased). Too many things don't make sense, and if it was Putin he picked a terrible time (during BRICS conference), that would not benefit him or Russia diplomatically. It does, however, give Ukraine and the West yet another opportunity to spread their Russophobia.

Another thing is that at this time, Wagner is really important for Russia due to their work in Africa at this very moment of the crisis in West Africa, and on the border of Belarus where thousands of Polish troops have amassed -- allegedly because they feared an incursion from Wagner (ridiculous paranoia, but that's the Poles for you).

[♥ Lily ♥]

Lily, I raised many of these exact points that you lay out so expertly here, in a post in that thread that was unfortunately accidentally deleted. I have also come to strongly doubt that Putin was involved in Prigozhin's death (if he is indeed deceased). Too many things don't make sense, and if it was Putin he picked a terrible time (during BRICS conference), that would not benefit him or Russia diplomatically. It does, however, give Ukraine and the West yet another opportunity to spread their Russophobia.

Another thing is that at this time, Wagner is really important for Russia due to their work in Africa at this very moment of the crisis in West Africa, and on the border of Belarus where thousands of Polish troops have amassed -- allegedly because they feared an incursion from Wagner (ridiculous paranoia, but that's the Poles for you).

Exactly, the timing is really off, and the way that the western media are rushing to pin the blame on President Putin before an investigation is even conducted is also suspicious - not to mention undiplomatic and unprofessional.

[♥ Lily ♥]

The United States, speaking about Putin's involvement in the crash of the plane with Prigozhin, neglects diplomatic norms, it is not for them to talk about it, Deputy Foreign Minister Ryabkov.

The current administration doesn’t know the meaning of the word diplomacy.

Lukashenko: Prigozhin never asked for security guarantees for himself.

“To answer this question directly: Firstly I don’t have to ensure Prigozhin’s safety. Secondly, the conversation has never been in such a vein.”

Lukashenko: Putin cannot be behind the assassination attempt on Prigozhin.

I can’t say who did it. Putin is a prudent and very calm person, making decisions on other, less complex issues. I cannot imagine that Putin did it. Very unprofessional work, for that matter.”

[♥ Lily ♥]

The death of Prigozhin will not change anything in terms of cooperation between the Central African Republic and Russian forces, an adviser to the president.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Imagine if President Putin specualtively told journalists: “Obama pushed his chef into the river and killed him!” within 24 hours after the suspicious death of Obama’s chef.

Afterall, Obama was photographed with cuts and scratches on his face and hands after his personal chef of many years died in suspicious circumstances.... and he showed no remorse, but went to play tennis instead.

What the US politicians and media are unprofessionally and undiplomatically doing is equivalent to that.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Video statement from President Putin (with English subtitles) regarding Prigozhin's confirmed death:

https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/st...45183399678305