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Hungarian>Finn connection to Neolithic Vinča J1c2 people with similarity to BachoKirorelated populat
Hungarian>Finn connection to Neolithic Vinča J1c2 people with similarity to Bacho Kiro-related populations
The Bulgarian BachoKiro specimens found in the cave close to the Danube River Basin are one of the most ancient Palaeo-Europeans (ca.44000-46000 years ago).
It is already known from the newest Chinese “Ancient genomes reveal the complex genetic history of Prehistoric Eurasian modern humans” (http://www.anthropol.ac.cn/EN/10.163.../AAS.2023.0012) that Chinese researchers place the homeland of male yDNa K2a East Asians 45000 years ago to Eastern China, and they think that female mtDNA R/R* and female mtDNA N/N* played an important role in the formation of the most ancient East Asians of male yDNA K2a, thus, it is female mtDNA R* Bacho Kiro CC7-2289 specimen (with no apparent archaic human mutations) that should be related to the Ancient East Asian gene pool in view of “Ancient genomes reveal the complex genetic history of Prehistoric Eurasian modern humans”.
Interestingly, there is also BachoKiro AA7-738 and BachoKiro F6-620 close to the Danube River Basin in Bulgaria. Their male yDNA is F-Y27277 https://www.theytree.com/tree/F-Y27277 found in Southeast Asia today. Their female mtDNA is M*, and according to the European piece of research “Initial Upper Palaeolithic Homo sapiens from Bacho Kiro Cave, Bulgaria” mtDNA M* of BachoKiro AA7-738 and BachoKiro F6-620 is related to the Australasian Onge of Andaman Islands of the Indian Ocean who are predominantly composed of male yDNA D-M174. Thus, Andamanese-related population may also be related to BachoKiro in Europe, thus, including another mtDNA lineage related to Andamanese populations which is female mtDNA M31, and it contains a branch M31c distributed closer to the Himalayas on the continent along the route which leads from the presumable continental homeland of the Andamanese Australasians to the Andaman Islands in the Indian Ocean, their current place of habitation.
Interestingly, this another “Bacho Kiro-related” (via Andamanese Australasians) female mtDNA M31c lineage contains a dangerous mutation A188G, though its bearers successfully survived, and this mutation looks quite alien for an mtDNA M lineage, because a larger part of other cases of this mutation A188G is found in Europe, that is, in lineages of mtDNA N (but not M) distributed in Europe. As described mtDNA M lineages have a certain conection to BachoKiro (via Andamanese Australasians), then the occurence of this A188G in the former “Andamanese Australasian”-related region may be also connected to the coming of BachoKiro-related populations.
Now there goes the most interesting part.
In the article “Ancient Mitogenomes Reveal the Origins and Genetic Structure of the Neolithic Shimao Population in Northern China” Chinese researchers extensively reviewed female mtDNA lineages of many world populations and made a lot of interesting lineage selections.
Chinese researchers selected the mtDNA J1c2 found in the famous Neolithic Vinca culture close to the Danube River Basin as one of the lineages that joined mtDNA pools of Hungarians and Finns. There are very few other “Hungarian-Finnish” lineages of this sort in their “Supplementary Table 3. The 7641 present-day individuals from published papers.” They even placed the Hungarian case of J1c2 in the end of the table, so that it was easily observable by readers.
European_MG952876 Hungarian European Hungary Hungary MG952876 J1c2 Malyarchuk et al., 2018
European_JX153482 Finn European Finland Finland JX153482 J1c2 Raule et al., 2014
In general, the mtDNA J1c2 contains the discussed A188G mutation.
Some cases of A188G mutation are found in Native Americans.
The Armenian sample of J1c2 serves to express the possible place closer to the homeland of J1c2 in "Ancient Mitogenomes Reveal the Origins and Genetic Structure of the Neolithic Shimao Population in Northern China”. The Polish sample of J1c2 serves to explain that J1c2 interacted with “Polish”-related Neolithic European lineages, which is important for the J1c2 bearers’ population history and its external connections, as envisaged by “Ancient Mitogenomes Reveal the Origins and Genetic Structure of the Neolithic Shimao Population in Northern China”. Other several cases of female mtDNA J1c2 in “Ancient Mitogenomes Reveal the Origins and Genetic Structure of the Neolithic Shimao Population in Northern China” are largely limited to Germanic populations, they probably represent one of the non-Indo-European substrata of Germanic languages.
There is a theory about “the Finnic substratum in Germanic languages” (in "Language Contact and the Origins of the Germanic Languages"), however, there is little data on the spread of Finnic languages so faraway to the West.
Thus, a different explanation for the discovered similarities should be searched for.
The Vinca culture is the culture where one of the earliest mtDNA J1c2 was found. Interestingly, some people point to the fact that the Vinca culture’s writing is older than the Sumerian writing. However, there is an even older population link between European Neolithic farmers and the Near East close to Mesopotamia, expressed by the male yDNA T haplogroup, and a case of ancient yDNA T (the European branch male yDNA T1a2b, T-L466) was also reported from an ancient Hungarian in “Whole genome analysis sheds light on the genetic origin of Huns, Avars and conquering Hungarians”, and his father was married to a woman of mtDNA H17a1 who had a connection to the Northeast Asian population depicted in “The deep population history of northern East Asia from the Late Pleistocene to the Holocene” which possessed such genetic elements that would explain the appearance of deeply Western European and Central European elements in the neighbourhood of the Kingdom of Puyo, which would in turn also explain the appearance of Western European and Central European non-Mongol horse lineages (likely distributed by the Kingdom of Puyo population) on the Jeju Island of Korea (as discovered in "Yoon, S. H. et al. Complete mitochondrial genome sequences of Korean native horse from Jeju Island: uncovering the spatio-temporal dynamics") and such a Puyo-reaching Northeast Asian population with Western Eurasian elements would explain the mystery of a putative Hungarian-Japonic connection described in "Japanese-Uralic language comparison" by Lajos Kazar, as this connection was thought to be mediated by the Kingdom of Puyo, while the Chinese linguistic work includes the special Japanese-Hungarian linguistic connection which is limited to these two languages and additionally is also related to Western Eurasian Neolithic Farmers, which is concordant with the appearance of the European Neolithic genetic ancestry (represented by LBK_EN) in ancient Japanese samples in “Triangulation supports agricultural spread of the Transeurasian languages”… However, the appearance of Western European and Central European horses in the Far East should be caused by the migration of Western Eurasian male lineages.
UPDATE: The described Northeast Asian population in the neighbourhood of the Kingdom of Puyo should not include female mtDNA Y1-16399G, while the European lineage to interact with should include lineages from the European mtDNA J1c2-related population: this is the sense of the mtDNA selection in "Ancient Mitogenomes Reveal the Origins and Genetic Structure of the Neolithic Shimao Population in Northern China”.
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