Viking mythology ? Inspired by Christianity..

[renaissance12]

Edda Mythology ?

Researcher wrote that all what is known about norse mythology from descriptions, archaelogical finds, place names etc, differs vitally compared to Edda's mythology.

This leads to conclusion: old pagan religion was in viking age have origins in christianity, .

Filologists demonstraded on linquistic basis, that none of poems in Edda cannot be older than 9th century.
Poems cannot be reconstructed to older language forms, because poem rule would be ruined.
Another thing explains, that poems are no older than viking age:

There are lots of loan words from latin, aglosaxon and iiri..

Poems' topics are mainly loans, in which we can see in jewish-christian and roman-greece sources.

Edda doesn't show skandinavian paganism ( and so nobody can know how it was structured .. but it is not a problem for viking's fanatics..... there are Marvel Comics..) but is based mainly on christian tradition, and via christian culture from antique materia, which is pretty young. For example norwegian A. Chr. Bang, icelandic G. Vigfusson, german E. H. Meyer agree with Bugge.

Poor Viking's fanatics...even their only mythological source was inspired by Christianity..

[Regnera]

I've heard that Norse mythology was inspired by Celtic mythology and Christianity.

[Nurzat]

paganism is not a religion, not all pagans believed in gods as christians believe in God/Jesus, some pagan societies had a respectful fear of nature's forces but weren't naming various aspects of nature as gods and weren't giving a human face to them as to a god. at least for non-religious pagans it won't mean much this news of christian influence on viking god system and all (if that is correct in the first place).

[renaissance12]

I've heard that Norse mythology was inspired by Celtic mythology and Christianity.

Yes...

Never forget that until the year 1000 AD Scandinavia was culturally speaking at the same level as sub-Saharan Africa...
And until 1800 Scandinavia was the poorest area in Europe... and many poor people from Scandinavia emigrated in America.
Until the end of the 19th century, no one in Italy dreamed of emigrating for a better life.
It was the French pigs who devastated our country, with the porkiest pig of all.. NAPOLEON..

[Beowulf]

I've heard that Norse mythology was inspired by Celtic mythology and Christianity.

Yes, but i think that with the time most of these religions influenced each other despite the geographic isolation of some people, a lot of time happened so i don't think is impossible that many cultures and different people with a different religion might arrived even to the most isolated tribes.

In my honest opinion.

( sorry for my English if you probably haven't understand well my message, i didn't knew how to express it well).

[Grace O'Malley]

I've read in the past that the Icelandic Sagas are influenced by the Gaels. The Irish had a very strong culture of myths and storytelling and with Norse Gaels going to Iceland and also slaves it was said to have influenced the Icelanders. Makes sense. Just a cursory look and this is something I've found.

Gaelic Whispers
What the Icelanders Remembered of Their Irish Past
Gísli Sigurðsson

The written sources are full of references to people of Scandinavian stock
who upped and left Britain and Ireland and moved to Iceland, sometimes with
wives of Irish or Scottish descent and often with slaves from similar regions
(Gísli Sigurðsson 2000, 31–33). In addition, placenames of Gaelic origin are
found mainly in those areas where memories of people from Britain and
Ireland later found their way into written records, and most of the skálds we
can put names to are said to have come from these same parts of the coun-
try. The parts of Iceland where saga writing flowered most exuberantly are the
same as those that are said to have had most settlers from Britain and Ireland.
Laxdæla saga and Kjalnesinga saga, both of them set in these regions, show
the clearest signs of Irish influence of all the sagas of Icelanders. All this gives
cause to pause and consider whether perhaps there is something about these
conditions that may have been significant for the shaping and development of
the settlement and the culture that emerged in Iceland in the first centuries of
its history.

https://brill.com/display/book/97890...f%20Icelanders.

According to folklore, a Gaelic-speaking warrior queen called Aud was among Iceland’s earliest settlers. Her story is central to an emerging theory that Scottish and Irish Celts played a far bigger role in Iceland’s history than realised.

A book by Thorvaldur Fridriksson, an Icelandic archaeologist and journalist, argues that Gaelic-speaking Celtic settlers from Ireland and western Scotland had a profound impact on the Icelandic language, landscape and early literature.

Aud had been queen of Viking Dublin in the ninth century before taking her family, and Scottish and Irish crewmen, on the voyage to Iceland. Fridriksson believes that through settlers such as Aud, Gaelic language and culture were integral to Iceland’s early history.

He has compiled a list of common Icelandic words and, with other academics, identified Icelandic landmarks that he believes have Gaelic roots. Iceland’s skaldic poetry, edda poetic traditions and the sagas upon which Iceland’s history is based were heavily influenced by Gaelic culture and immigrants, he argues.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rs-says-author

[Beowulf]

I've read in the past that the Icelandic Sagas are influenced by the Gaels. The Irish had a very strong culture of myths and storytelling and with Norse Gaels going to Iceland and also slaves it was said to have influenced the Icelanders. Makes sense. Just a cursory look and this is something I've found.

Gaelic Whispers
What the Icelanders Remembered of Their Irish Past
Gísli Sigurðsson



https://brill.com/display/book/97890...f%20Icelanders.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rs-says-author

Very interesting information!

[Grace O'Malley]

Very interesting information!

It makes sense and it would be strange if there was no Gaelic influence. A lot of the Vikings that went to Iceland were Norse Gaels and the women brought over were Gaelic women (i.e. Irish and Scottish) from the Viking colonies. This is backed up by dna and also history.

[Beowulf]

It makes sense and it would be strange if there was no Gaelic influence. A lot of the Vikings that went to Iceland were Norse Gaels and the women brought over were Gaelic women (i.e. Irish and Scottish) from the Viking colonies. This is backed up by dna and also history.

This is what i usually heard and read indeed.

[renaissance12]

I've read in the past that the Icelandic Sagas are influenced by the Gaels. The Irish had a very strong culture of myths and storytelling and with Norse Gaels going to Iceland and also slaves it was said to have influenced the Icelanders. Makes sense. Just a cursory look and this is something I've found.

Gaelic Whispers
What the Icelanders Remembered of Their Irish Past
Gísli Sigurðsson



https://brill.com/display/book/97890...f%20Icelanders.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rs-says-author

There were the celts in Ireland..

It is well known that celts were much more advanced than germanics from scandinavia (whose ancestor 500 B.C. were from east-europe-russia-ukraine).

In today's Germany (except in the extreme northern part of Poland) the last to arrive were the Germanic tribes, shortly before the birth of Christ.