Japan or Russia

[true_southron]

My feelings towards Russia, are those of disappointment and hopelessness. They have the population, the literacy, the technical and industrial knowhow, the cultural cloud, the landmass and the resources, to become a modern functioning democracy and a leader of a united Europe - a European America, so to speak. A place where European farmers and disaffected Westerners, tired of their highly reglemented and overpopulated Western Europe, could flock to start anew (like our ancestors did to America, Argentina, Australia and Canada in the 19th and early 20th century), but that always keeps being pulled back into its tyrannical, criminal, imperialist past, from which Putler is but the latest incarnation of a malicious tradition starting with the likes of Ivan the Terrible and Peter the -not-so-Great.

They have it all and every time, they piss it up against the wall. Frustrating. So frustrating. It should have ended in March 1918.

Your perspective is too Eurocentric

[rothaer]

My feelings towards Russia, are those of disappointment and hopelessness. They have the population, the literacy, the technical and industrial knowhow, the cultural cloud, the landmass and the resources, to become a modern functioning democracy and a leader of a united Europe - a European America, so to speak. A place where European farmers and disaffected Westerners, tired of their highly reglemented and overpopulated Western Europe, could flock to start anew (like our ancestors did to America, Argentina, Australia and Canada in the 19th and early 20th century), but that always keeps being pulled back into its tyrannical, criminal, imperialist past, from which Putler is but the latest incarnation of a malicious tradition starting with the likes of Ivan the Terrible and Peter the -not-so-Great.

They have it all and every time, they piss it up against the wall. Frustrating. So frustrating. It should have ended in March 1918.

I'd have those feelings if I'd be a Russian. But why as a Dutch or a German? I can approach Russia without any claim regarding its internal conditions. It's up to the Russians to form their country.

March 1918? Do you think of the March offensive towards Paris that likely would have made the Central Powers win the war if not the USA would have sent about 1 million fresh men to defend Paris?

[ToySoldierEnthusiast]

Nobody wants to be russian, even russians dont want to be russian

[Automata]

Nobody wants to be russian, even russians dont want to be russian

Truth is spoken.

[Automata]

I'd have those feelings if I'd be a Russian. But why as a Dutch or a German?

You have a point, but it's in human nature to root for other people, even if they are not your own.

[The_Strategist]

N I P P O N

[Ruggery]

I'd have those feelings if I'd be a Russian. But why as a Dutch or a German? I can approach Russia without any claim regarding its internal conditions. It's up to the Russians to form their country.

March 1918? Do you think of the March offensive towards Paris that likely would have made the Central Powers win the war if not the USA would have sent about 1 million fresh men to defend Paris?

And what is your opinion towards Russia? Negative or positive?

[Abaddon]

Nobody wants to be russian, even russians dont want to be russian

Well, at least being russian brings you the privilege of being european

[Your Old Comrade]

I'd have those feelings if I'd be a Russian. But why as a Dutch or a German? I can approach Russia without any claim regarding its internal conditions. It's up to the Russians to form their country.

March 1918? Do you think of the March offensive towards Paris that likely would have made the Central Powers win the war if not the USA would have sent about 1 million fresh men to defend Paris?

Refering to the March Revolution of 1917. The first revolution. My mistake. I was doing two things at the same time. And, yes, Europe needs Russia (the Eastern border moves to China and North Korea and with all the knowhow and resources a fully united Europe including Russia would be a world power, free from U.S and Chinese interference) as much as Russia needs Europe (having no Western frontier that is potentially troublesome, thus allowing her to develop into all it could be: A European version of the U.S with an extremely strong industrial, technological, scientific, educational and agricultural base, no paranoia towards all things foreign, thus allowing for greater civil and political liberties and more investments into a higher standard living, one that would also spur on population growth as Russia is FAR below its carrying capacity). A Europe with a Russia that met its full potential as a democratic society, could easily outnumber China in terms of population. Let that sink in!

But we don't need this Russia that exists now. Then even the Americans are the better option.

[rothaer]

You have a point, but it's in human nature to root for other people, even if they are not your own.

Yeah but "rooting for others" against their will or at least against the will of many of them is what is going on around the world and that I'd call mingeling in and being disrespectful. Why should an European tell how the society in Saudi Arabia, Iran or China shall be organised?