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Thread: The Truth about the Imaginary "Palestininan " state !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    History of the imaginary Palestinian state:

    • Before Israel there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
    • Before the British Mandate, it was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
    They were part of the Ottoman Empire from 1516 to 1918, a longer period of time than the USA has been in existence and were there for a substantialy longer period of time before that (before the Bible was written).

    I note that many Jews expelled from various European empires/countries around this time sought sanctuary and settled within the Ottoman Empire but they evidently had no desire to settle in what is now Israel. Hardly any did so. Zionism wasn't a thing back then.
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    God chosen people



















    Yes, you love Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    Palestinians are not a people, for one thing.
    They are a people and they deserve to have independent state. It is guarranted by United Nations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._for_Palestine



    Vast majority of the countries in the world recognized State of Palestine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abti View Post
    The US needs non-interventionist Paganism instead of nosy interventionist Christiany.
    If the US were Christian but Paleoconservative it'd already be a good start.

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    To be honest, doesnt matter who lived there earlier. The land belongs to these who can get it by weapons. Not the justice is the law, but the swords and tanks, this is how the european history always worked.
    Jews defended themselves in every war against arabs, so its rightful jewish area now, but if arabs can defeat jews then it will be rightful arab territory again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    To be honest, doesnt matter who lived there earlier. The land belongs to these who can get it by weapons. Not the justice is the law, but the swords and tanks, this is how the european history always worked.
    Jews defended themselves in every war against arabs, so its rightful jewish area now, but if arabs can defeat jews then it will be rightful arab territory again.
    I disagree with that conclusion and with that view. In almost all conflicts there was referred to various rights or at least alleged rights and actually even in this conflict this is very much done from both sides.

    Dealing with rights has always been a big part in conflicts in European history except for a few outlaws like the late Hitler, the late Napoleon, Ceasar and Attila (and btw. all of these but Attila have finally faced measures that violently removed them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    I disagree with that conclusion and with that view. In almost all conflicts there was referred to various rights or at least alleged rights and actually even in this conflict this is very much done from both sides.
    Yeah maybe in the fairy tales. Europe was dominated by the strongest nations/empires, and small nations were opressed by them without any justice. The sword was the law not the justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    God chosen people



















    Yes, you love Israel.
    If a group of people happen to claim that they are "god's chosen" just know they have plans for you and some numbskulls would be more than happy to be at their service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    Yes, you love Israel.
    No I don't, I want to see "Israel" destroyed. It's Mystery Babylon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Yeah maybe in the fairy tales. Europe was dominated by the strongest nations/empires, and small nations were opressed by them without any justice. The sword was the law not the justice.
    The existence of Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Andorra, San Marino, Malta and even Switzerland as well as the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands with their particular rights with autonomy is not compatible with your imagination.
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