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    Question Can we assign an average IQ for every autosomal admixture to calculate a population IQ ?

    Supposing a population has several autosomal admixtures, if we assign an average iq to each other then we could calculate the population average iq.

    Example : 50%whg + 50%EEF if we assign an iq of 105 to whg and 100 to eef then we would get an average iq of 102.5...

    Can we do that ? Would we get a precise result ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by true_southron View Post
    No
    Why ?

    I read studies showing that a child from one parent white and the other black would have a average iq between white iq and black iq, so why would not it be true for autosomal admixtures too ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tita View Post
    Why ?

    I read studies showing that a child from one parent white and the other black would have a average iq between white iq and black iq, so why would not it be true for autosomal admixtures too ?
    First of, you need to understand IQ =/= intellligence. Second, you need to believe that IQ can actually measure intelligence (IQ is made for academic potential of children in strict sciences, its over 100 years old methodology, just dated, like human taxonomy). Lastly, EEFs built modern civilization while WHGs were eating mud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tita View Post
    Why ?

    I read studies showing that a child from one parent white and the other black would have a average iq between white iq and black iq, so why would not it be true for autosomal admixtures too ?
    It works this way with consistency indeed, even Afro Americans are exactly above native African's IQ in the same proportion of their white admixture in the US. If you had the average IQ for each ancestral euro group you could, but we don't have that and never will. They shouldn't be significantly different anyway since most of Europe is in the same ballpark wether south or north, for example Italy is a bit higher than Denmark, and besides a few oddities like Ireland and some eastern countries most countries are around 100 on average, it doesn't seem to be relevant with ancient european admixture. Even Israel is just somewhere between europe and the middle east as it should since they are that autosomally, contrary to popular belief jews are much more intelligent, only the Ashkenazi in the West are but it's a sub elitist group. So yeah you could predict an average IQ based on national mixes, no more no less.


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    Intelligence is an individual quality.

    The qualities of a group are not equal to the average of the individual qualities of that group.

    IMO, the most notable case of an individual factor related to high intelligence that negatively affects the optimal functioning of a group is precisely the opposite tendency toward gregariousness.

    Hey, you can relate what you say if you want, but any conclusion you draw from doing such a thing would be wrong.

    So I would say that such a thing should not be done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    It works this way with consistency indeed, even Afro Americans are exactly above native African's IQ in the same proportion of their white admixture in the US. If you had the average IQ for each ancestral euro group you could, but we don't have that and never will. They shouldn't be significantly different anyway since most of Europe is in the same ballpark wether south or north, for example Italy is a bit higher than Denmark, and besides a few oddities like Ireland and some eastern countries most countries are around 100 on average, it doesn't seem to be relevant with ancient european admixture. Even Israel is just somewhere between europe and the middle east as it should since they are that autosomally, contrary to popular belief jews are much more intelligent, only the Ashkenazi in the West are but it's a sub elitist group. So yeah you could predict an average IQ based on national mixes, no more no less.

    If those IQ results are correct why do they not translate to the population having reached a certain level of educational attainment? The reason being some of the results about nations IQ results are erroneous. When were the tests conducted and by who? Are they current? Something is obviously not correct in those IQ results.



    Also PISA results.



    https://russellwarne.com/2022/12/17/...ever-happened/

    There are numerous other results which I could post to show that there is something odd with those IQ results for Ireland in particular. How is Ireland performing better academically than populations that apparently have higher IQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tita View Post
    Supposing a population has several autosomal admixtures, if we assign an average iq to each other then we could calculate the population average iq.

    Example : 50%whg + 50%EEF if we assign an iq of 105 to whg and 100 to eef then we would get an average iq of 102.5...

    Can we do that ? Would we get a precise result ?
    Why would EEF have a lower IQ than whg that makes no sense. EEF invented civilization lil bro quit coping
    Last edited by HectorOfTroy; 11-05-2023 at 03:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    Why would EEF have a lower IQ than whg that makes no sense. EEF invented civilization lil bro quit coping
    Did not the Western Hunter Gatherers subdue the Farmer incursion later on though. WHG were definitely intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    If those IQ results are correct why do they not translate to the population having reached a certain level of educational attainment? The reason being some of the results about nations IQ results are erroneous. When were the tests conducted and by who? Are they current? Something is obviously not correct in those IQ results.



    Also PISA results.



    https://russellwarne.com/2022/12/17/...ever-happened/

    There are numerous other results which I could post to show that there is something odd with those IQ results for Ireland in particular. How is Ireland performing better academically than populations that apparently have higher IQ?
    I wouldn't completely equate level of education with intelligence or even PISA which is gonna be a bit biased with the education system since it's not entirely an IQ test but more like competency in a field, also now mudded by various immigraiton levels. Qatar is rich and educated for obvious reasons, yet the least intelligent MENA in a real IQ test. Regardless i mentionned Ireland is the odd one in here, either bad sampling or something. I can't remember if it's consistent in other IQ reports, and frankly i don't care, it's not the point of the argument.

    In the big picture the reverse though is demonstratively correct, humanity's IQ translate in GDP as it's a transversal line and this has been demonstrated numerous times in studies. Countries are not dumb because they are poor, they are poor because they are dumb. On average, not individually obviously, since it apparently has to be subtitled in order for people to not curb and rock themselves in tears with that fact.

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