What percentage of the population in France is ethnic French?

[Zeno]

So you'd say that over half of immigrants in Greece are nowadays non-white? So the White population of Greece (whether native or foreign) would be circa 90-93%?

Close to 95%, yes.

[gixajo]

Let alone MENA and Black people; there are many French people of Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish descent.

Do you really think in most of cases it's easy to spot a person of Iberian or Italian descent among a French crowd?

[Tooting Carmen]

Do you really think in most of cases it's easy to spot a person of Iberian or Italian descent among a French crowd?

Probably not the majority of the time, but the ones who resemble e.g. Alvaro Arbeloa or Lorenzo Insigne would stick out.

[Kess]

Do you really think in most of cases it's easy to spot a person of Iberian or Italian descent among a French crowd?

Yeah, for example: https://www.transfermarkt.com.tr/enz...spieler/291110 He looks very Italian.

[gixajo]

Yeah, for example: https://www.transfermarkt.com.tr/enz...spieler/291110 He looks very Italian.

Do you really think in most of cases it's easy to spot a person of Iberian or Italian descent among a French crowd?

[Tooting Carmen]

Do you really think in most of cases it's easy to spot a person of Iberian or Italian descent among a French crowd?

Not really, but I would say that both groups have at least 10-15% of people who'd pass better as Levantine or Iranian than even as French.

[gixajo]

Probably not the majority of the time, but the ones who resemble e.g. Alvaro Arbeloa or Lorenzo Insigne would stick out.

It is very clear that in general the French are lighter than Spanish, Portuguese or Italians, whoever says that this is not the case is lying or does not know what they are talking about, but anyone who thinks that an Italian or Iberian in France is a dark-skinned person surrounded by Nordics does not even know that he is French, Italian, Spanish or Portuguese.

How many descendants of Spaniards, Italians or even more extreme...North Africans, would you even say there could be in that chorus in the video?

[Tooting Carmen]

It is very clear that in general the French are lighter than Spanish, Portuguese or Italians, whoever says that this is not the case is lying or does not know what they are talking about, but anyone who thinks that an Italian or Iberian in France is a dark-skinned person surrounded by Nordics does not even know that he is French, Italian, Spanish or Portuguese.

Very true.

[gixajo]

Not really, but I would say that both groups have at least 10-15% of people who'd pass better as Levantine or Iranian than even as French.

So if a French person looks like one of those groups that you mention, you immediately assign him an Italian or Spanish ancestry (or non-European origins directly) because you know that we have natives with those appearances on some occasions?

[Victor]

Not so much anymore. Balkaners have been largely replaced with South and Central Asians and MENAs. The immigrant population has remained steady, but its consistency has changed.

Pontic Greeks from Caucasus don't look like other Greeks, culturally and linguistically they're different, too (most of them speak Turkish). Plus another interesting thing is that non Pontic Greeks from other parts of USSR never had this massive tendency to leave to Greece after collapse of the USSR, playing the biggest Greeks of themselves (my friend lives in Cyprus and says that lots of Caucasian Pontic Greeks behave quite alien and play badasses and biggest Greeks of the country).

As for me, my Greek ancestry by great grandmother is of mainland Greece refugees to Odessa region during Greek revolution in 19 century.