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    Buddhism vs Christianity

    Listening to her speak about her ‘Buddhism’ reminded me of a Japanese girlfriend of mine who is a historical, generational, cultural Buddhist, but in reality, it really doesn’t mean anything deeper than that whatsoever, it is in name only.
    Just like our ‘Lutheranism’ and what ‘cultural Tengrism’ seems like.

    Shouldn’t this video be in the Christianity section Loki, as it seems it is not about Buddhism per se, but evangelism about why Buddhism is ‘wrong’ and Christianity is ‘right’.

    I made no secret that my ‘religion’ is the Axis Mundi, which in its core is the essence of Nonduality which is All Pervasive, All Accommodating state of ‘Neutral Spatial Awareness’ one perhaps could say.

    “To know is not to know” is a Zen Buddhist saying which understands the paradox of the 2 truths -the absolute and the relative. Trinity makes everything workable.
    The Trinity in Christian theology is God.

    Christianity: Father, Holy Ghost & Son as ‘One’.
    Shamanism: Totality, Energy and Individual manifestation as ‘One’.
    Buddhism: Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya & Nirmanakaya as ‘One’.



    Hope you do not delete my post Loki, but of course you can always ban me …
    Still, imo. the best one can do is to create space in the mind for questioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aila View Post
    Hope you do not delete my post Loki, but of course you can always ban me …
    Still, imo. the best one can do is to create space in the mind for questioning.
    No need for that, I think this woman's testimony is powerful and authentic enough to withstand your criticism below it.

    I am still praying for you, that Jesus would give you a revelation about who he really is, and that you are currently on the wrong path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    No need for that, I think this woman's testimony is powerful and authentic enough to withstand your criticism below it.

    I am still praying for you, that Jesus would give you a revelation about who he really is, and that you are currently on the wrong path.
    I thought that yours was the “My way or the highway” Loki. The Church of Deliverance or the highway ….

    I really cannot see why both traditions; - Buddhism and Christianity could not be respected:


    Or why both could not be observed with a discerning eye:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aila View Post
    I thought that yours was the “My way or the highway” Loki. The Church of Deliverance or the highway ….
    Not my way...but God's way. That's the main difference between the Christian faith and all other religions. Only the Christian faith is of God, and God's way for salvation.
    EDIT: I understand now what you meant by that. But no, I'm not intolerable, especially since I don't want people to be lost. Patience, grace and mercy are Christian virtues. Jesus loves you and therefore I should give you a fair chance.

    I really cannot see why both traditions; - Buddhism and Christianity could not be respected:
    I can see why...clearly.... because only one leads to Life. The other to eternal damnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aila View Post
    [B]my ‘religion’ is the Axis Mundi, which in its core is the essence of Nonduality which is All Pervasive, All Accommodating state of ‘Neutral Spatial Awareness’ one perhaps could say.

    “To know is not to know” is a Zen Buddhist saying which understands the paradox of the 2 truths -the absolute and the relative. Trinity makes everything workable.
    The Trinity in Christian theology is God.

    Christianity: Father, Holy Ghost & Son as ‘One’.
    Shamanism: Totality, Energy and Individual manifestation as ‘One’.
    Buddhism: Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya & Nirmanakaya as ‘One’.
    Trinitarianism doesn't mean non-duality. Because Jesus (God the son) and God the father being one/the same only applies to Jesus only and not to the rest of humanity/creation, from most outsider's perspectives, outsiders of the Christian faith will see Jesus as an 'enlightened individual' and that his references to being one with God is metaphorical and not literal, or that because they think that Jesus was merely human that that means it must also apply to us because we're merely human, but Jesus is not merely human and he has always been God, not that he received oneness with God later in his life. He was never created either, we were.

    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1

    "He was in the world, and the world came into being through Him, and the world did not know Him." John 1:10

    "Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."" John 8:58

    "“We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”" John 10:33

    "and he fell on his face at His feet, giving thanks to Him. And he was a Samaritan. And Jesus, having answered, said, "Were not the ten cleansed? But where are the nine? Was there found none having returned to give glory to God, except this foreigner?"" Luke 17:16-18

    “Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”" Revelation 22:13
    "Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood." Acts 20:28
    Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.” 28Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” John 20:27-28
    Jesus distinguishes himself as being separate from Abraham because there was a point when Abraham was not (because he's a created being) but Jesus has always been (as only God has always been and Jesus is God), Jesus is outside creation, unlike Abraham/us humans. The Trinity is not a metaphor for humans receiving oneness with God, but it is the literal oneness of Father, Holy Spirit and Jesus because they are literally one/same being, it's a term that is only applied to the members of the Trinity/God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    That's a good illustration of how we perceive a higher dimensional God -- we cannot completely because he is on another level altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    That's a good illustration of how we perceive a higher dimensional God -- we cannot completely because he is on another level altogether.
    God is not limited by time and space, he's everywhere, even in hell.

    Our personal perception varies to the complete absence of God in our life, to such as in the picture and up to the most full connection with God as the saints have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    God is not limited by time and space, he's everywhere, even in hell.

    Our personal perception varies to the complete absence of God in our life, to such as in the picture and up to the most full connection with God as the saints have.
    Yes, I was specifically referring to the doctrine of the Trinity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yes, I was specifically referring to the doctrine of the Trinity.
    I prefer the metaphora of sun made by Orthodox Holy fathers. Sun is Father, while light and warmth are Son and Holy Spirit and they're the One. From the Sun warmth and light come, like in our Creed of Faith, Son and Spirit come from the Father.

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