Assyrians; Where can they pass physically in Europe? (Multiple choice)

[Sikeliot]

In other derailing news, where could this Assyrian lady pass?

Iran, Afghanistan. Maybe even a light Punjabi.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

Assyrians can pass in the border line areas of Europe. If they are mixed then they can pass in many areas. Iraqi Assyrians tend to resemble their neighbours but they are lighter than the Arab counterparts, and the Kurds are lighter than them in Iraq at least.

Agreed. Assyrians and Iraqi Arabs in relation to their pigmentation coincides with what you described. Iraqi Arabs are, on average, a couple shades darker than Assyrians. Although there are instances of Iraqi Arabs who are as light as Assyrians, and Assyrians who are as dark as Iraqi Arabs.

[Sikeliot]

Agreed. Assyrians and Iraqi Arabs in relation to their pigmentation coincides with what you described. Iraqi Arabs are, on average, a couple shades darker than Assyrians. Although there are instances of Iraqi Arabs who are as light as Assyrians, and Assyrians who are as dark as Iraqi Arabs.

The Lebanese and Syrian look strikingly different. I am shocked. The Syrian looks more like a Kurd to me, oddly enough.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

The Lebanese and Syrian look strikingly different. I am shocked. The Syrian looks more like a Kurd to me, oddly enough.

Yes they do, as unusual as it may seem. The Syrian and Lebanese facial composite isn't too different from the Assyrian one. Neither is the Iranian or the Iraqi Arab one. The only one that is glaringly distinct is the Saudi Arabian one.

[Sikeliot]

The ones that stand out most are the Iraqi Arab and the Saudi. I would have liked to see a Yemeni composite, because apparently from what I hear they are (oddly, given their geographic location and proximity to Africa) lighter.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

The ones that stand out most are the Iraqi Arab and the Saudi. I would have liked to see a Yemeni composite, because apparently from what I hear they are (oddly, given their geographic location and proximity to Africa) lighter.

I don't think Yemenis differ that much from Saudi Arabians. But I'd be interested in what the average Yemeni facial composite is.

[rhiannon]

Arabic
Iranian
Iraqi
Turkish

[StonyArabia]

Arabic
Iranian
Iraqi
Turkish

Iraqis are a subset of Arabian population, especially Iraqi Arabs. They fall into the Arabian cluster. In fact they are genetically distinct from the Levantines and Turks. They tend to look out of place in Lebanon and Syria and Turkey but in Arabia they would not be noticed at all.


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Though you have some self-hating individuals or those with identity issues often trying to say they look like Euros or some other nonsense, but those elements frankly are a minority.

[Transhumanist]

Iraqis are a subset of Arabian population, especially Iraqi Arabs. They fall into the Arabian cluster. In fact they are genetically distinct from the Levantines and Turks. They tend to look out of place in Lebanon and Syria and Turkey but in Arabia they would not be noticed at all.


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Though you have some self-hating individuals or those with identity issues often trying to say they look like Euros or some other nonsense, but those elements frankly are a minority.

From a post of mine, on ABF.

I meant to post this is as well, before. In many of my posts I have discussed the differences between minority Middle Easterners and the Muslim majority. In ADMIXTURE, these differences are apparent (i.e. "African" v negligible "African"). The same, generally speaking, is extended, in the Muslim majority, to the Y chromosome (i.e. elevated J1-P58), and mtDNA (i.e. non-negligible L).

Whereas ADMIXTURE is sensitive to the genetic minutiae, the plot below is intended to capture the greatest chunks of genetic variation represented in the data set, and present them along two axes.

The labels are according to E Mesopotamian Aramaic dialect (extant or recently extinct). The Iraqi Arab Muslims are in cyan.

You are "North." The S Iraqi Arab is the only truly distinctive one here. I presume this is a result of a predominantly Saudi genome.

[ZephyrousMandaru]

From a post of mine, on ABF.



You are "North." The S Iraqi Arab is the only truly distinctive one here. I presume this is a result of a predominantly Saudi genome.

I think Northern Iraqi Arabs are closely related to us, I heard that in the 9th Century BC, Tikrit was Arabized and that before it was a "Nestorian province". So I wouldn't doubt that Northern Iraqi Arabs are close to us.