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    Quote Originally Posted by Artavazt View Post
    Whats this obsession about scratching armenian/assyrian marriages all over internet ? I saw another chaeldean man writing an article on wikipedia about assyrian/armenian relations claiming that marriages between these two people(in armenia) is very common,although the entire number of assyrians in armenia is less than 10,000 and most of them live in seperate villages in the last 2 decades,even if we suppose that all of them have armenian couples they wouldnt contaminate more than 0,5% of all armenians.

    Its like us metioining armenian/russian , armenian/ukranian marriages which is much higher than any other armenian non armenian marriages,not mention with assyrians, to prove something.
    Are you truly an Armenian or are you of another ethnicity claiming to be Armenian? Do you not know the history of your own people? Armenia, is but a small place, of the Armenian inhabitated lands prior to the genocide.

    I am not talking about Assyrian and Armenian marriages within Armenia. I am talking about Armenian and Assyrian marriages in now modern eastern and southeastern Turkey, and their descendants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sargon999 View Post
    Are you truly an Armenian or are you of another ethnicity claiming to be Armenian? Do you not know the history of your own people? Armenia, is but a small place, of the Armenian inhabitated lands prior to the genocide.

    Im 25% welsh,75% armenian.

    And a christian iraqi is not the one to teach me about my history.As Arorti already said the armenians that lived in the areas that you mentioned represent less than 2/3% of all armenians,(lets say 10% of western armenians) majority of western armenians lived in karz,erzrum igdir drabizon cilicia and there were no assyrians there but kurds and turks,and the number of assyrians that migrated to eastern armenia and lived next to eastern armenians is less than 10,000 according to official numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artavazt View Post
    Thei idea of circassians beeing lighter than average armenians is BS. iv seen lots of circassians that are darker than average armenians,specialy from syria and jordan,maybe they were half arabs like you,but they identify themselves as circassians.
    The average Circassian is indeed lighter than the average Armenian. Circassians lack the South Asian and SouthWest Asian admixture. They have North European and Mongoloid influence, but the majority of their genome is still West Asian. Circassians in Syria and Jordan are not representive of the Circassians in their homeland, and the Caucasus. Since many Circassian men took Arab wives. Many Circassians have recent Arabian maternal lineages, because they often intermarried with women from the powerful Bedouin tribes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artavazt
    As for your claim of us looking similar to assyrians,im not gona even respond as i already stated my opinion regarding this issue http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...stcount=126,as you claimed few months ago that we are the closest to ashkenazi jews till i posted a map suggesting that circassians are the closest ones,you seem to have problem with us.
    Ashkenazim and Sephardim are actually very close to two ethnic European population that is Southern Italians and Greeks, don't believe me, see where they plot. Ashkenazim and Sephardim in fact don't cluster with any Levantine population. I think you are mistaking me for someone else. Circassians will of course be closer to Armenians, because they share the same roots, the difference is the admix that they have gained was different and hence why they are different. This also includes Assyrians, they are more West Asian than anything. I have no problem with Armenians at all, I am just stating what genetics seems to show.
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    Armenians and these days even Armenians in Armenia due to the good political relations between Assyrians and Armenians.
    What political relation ? What do you represent to make political relation with a legal republic ?????
    Our political relation is with IRAQ that represents all Iraqis including some Christians that identify themselves as Assyrians or belong to Assyrian churches. We don’t support separatists in any country, other than Kurdish separatists in turkey, Lezgins and Talyshes in Azerbeijan. We have very good ties with Iran,iraq and syria and dont want to ruin that for some seperatists just cause they are "fellow christian brothers".



    One Assyrian man's opinion does not reflect our people's opinion. But we do speak our own language. Our Christian religion is even more of a mixture between ancient Ashurism and Christianity.
    I just gave an example, btw if you know Aleppo and been there, you probably know him, his very famous barber named "Emil". As you already said that some of you became assimilated cause of Ba'ath party.

    The Armenians even wrote in our alphabet prior to developing your own alphabet, and our Syriac alphabet along with Greek and Latin was used when developing the Armenian alphabet.
    We used some sort of cuniform, but I'm not 100% sure wether if it was Assyrian, cause some sources say it was Sumerian and Sumerians are not semitic people, some other sources say otherwise, but im not that interested about this issue.

    About developing Armenian alphabets, I know that we used greek and latin, but no Armenian historian or Armenian history book mentions anything about Assyrian alphabets, specialy that your alphabet like most of other semitic alphabets start from right to left, unlike Armenian, Greek and Latin that start from left to right.
    And i can find similarity between armenian alphabets and greek or latin which is evidence that we used them to develop our alphabets,but i fail to find that with assyrian alphabets.


    . Our immediate Armenian neighbours ended up just like us; scattered worldwide.
    Your immediate Armenian neighbours were already scattered and living outside their ancestral lands, Hakkari is Kurdish land, Urmia is Iranian, they were already ended up like you otherwise they wouldn’t be your immediate neighbours in the first place.

    When I talk of immediate neighbours, I am not merely talking about eastern Armenians. I mainly reflect the relations between western Armenians who lived among us as brothers and sisters.
    Well im western Armenian, my ancestors did not live among Assyrians as brothers and sisters, and when they went to Syria after genocide all Syrians were ok with them, except syriac Christians and chaeldeans, there is even famous Armenian saying in Syria to buy home from muslm arab but not syriaic Christian. And most of western Armenians are from Kars,Sasoon,drabizon,igdird..etc where there were no Assyrians,but many Greeks and kurds.

    . First by being absorbed by the Soviet Union which gave protection and thereafter the protection of Russia, had Turkey intervened in the Azeri-Armenian war.
    Before getting absorbed by soviet union we had to fight against turks alone and claimed independent Armenia for 2 years prior to the absorption, google and search "sardarapat battlation".


    And once again, the Armenians fit fine in Syria. They do not look like some alien population as Germans would.
    Some one doesn’t have to be german to look alien in Syria, im talking about my experience there for many years, where I could simply know if someone is Syrian Armenian or non armenian syrian , people also used to know that im non Syrian by looking to my face like most of my Armenian friends, there are always exceptional cases,but I'm talking in general.




    I have met many Armenians in my life, both in real life and on the internet. Most are very kind and feel a relationship between our two nations. I even have Armenians in my family.
    We have patriotards who feel close to any other Christian nation, if they met an Ethiopian or Icelandic Christian they would feel the same thing that they felt about you or your people so dont feel so happy and excited about it.


    Most Armenians are not as hateful as yourself.
    I'm not hatefull at all, I have nothing against people identifying themselves as Assyrians, I just simply said that your not our immediate neighbours, if you search on this forum, you will see that most Armenians (hatefull or not ) have the same opinion of mine regarding your people, however you seem to have national inferiority and complexity and you seem to feel that you are left alone in ME, so you try to find anything that link you to other Christian nations, and represent it in exaggerated way.
    Don’t expect from everyone to tolerate that, though you may find some patriotards who don’t mind.


    Once again, we were immediate neighbours for thousands of years. From “Ara the Beautiful and Shamiram” up until the genocide in 1914 we lived as neighbours.
    Im not expert in history, but I heard about ara and shamiram in Armenian history books and sites.


    Semiramis who was the queen of Assyria-Babylon, is bought up many times in your writings. There is the story of the Armenian king Ara the Beautiful who refused Semiramis’s offer to a marriage and become king of the world. Semiramis outraged by Ara’s refusal, wages a war against Armenia and demands Ara’s capture alive. This is a clear example of how a reptilian queen wanting to possess the blood of a pure Aryan to carry on the hybridization program of the Illuminati.
    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/archi...p/t-30574.html




    According to the legend the Armenian patriarch Hayk defeated the evil Assyrian ruler Bel in an epic battle, in order to win his people's freedom. He named this territory Hayastan, and the Armenians are still using this name. This legend is a part of Armenia’s rich and storied history, where Armenian heroes fought against evil invaders and conquerors for their freedom.
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    Also Hurrians, "Urartians" and Hittites were very tough on you.
    If we look at our relation with you in history and treat you accordingly we would end up supporting the hate crimes and massacres against you in Iraq and Syria by muslim extremists,but dont worry we wont do that,but i just dont understand the point of mentioning these things when it certainly doesnt serve your biased agenda in any way.


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    You should not mix apples with oranges. The intermarriages between Assyrians and Armenians came because close relations regarding culture, religion and geographical closeness. Armenians boys and girls have married Assyrian girls and boys in high rates, and still do. Why are you concerned over this? It is a natural thing to happen.
    I'm not mixing anything.
    Armenians and Assyrians have the same religion, but we can say the same thing about other examples that I gave. Your culture is not similar to us, your language is Semitic, and for the last time I say, only 5% of all Armenians were your "immediate neighbours" on Kurdish and or Persian lands(Hakkari,Urmia) for the same reason that you are the immediate neighbours of Scandinavians and Armenians living in Sweden. It was the same scenario but on Kurdish/Persian lands not Scandinavian. In history you may had bordered us in south when we had empire, in the same way byzantine empire bordered arabs in south, we were not lucky enough like iberiens to be separated from you by mediterranian sea, like they were from north Africans, but I never said that the world is fair. And of course I would be concered if there is a mixture between Armenians and a weak nation from a third world country, I would preffer marriages with other nations that are equal to us (Greeks, Georgians..etc ) which is logicaly much higher than assyrian/armenian marriages, or other nations that are better than us (Germans , Frenches …etc) , if you were armenian you would have the same concern, if I was Assyrian I would have the same pleasure. But im not concerned that much cause I already said the percentage of Armenians who have lived close to you has always been less than 5% ,even to this day, Armenians in ME, Sweden and Australia represent 5% of Armenians whrere there are considerable number of Assyrians, and from my experience in Syria 95% (or more) of Armenians there don’t mix with you. So overall 1/2% of all armenians might be mixed with arabs,assyrians...etc


    Armenians do not look like Circassians or north Caucasian. That someone mistakes you for something is an individual case.
    I did not say that all Armenians look like all Circassians,We have the highest percentage of western European (r1b) marker, though unlike you they have links with urartians as I heard some theories that link Chechens with Urartians.
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    I would say the most exotic looking Sicilians/Maltese/Greek would overlap, but that feels like a stretch. On average they wouldn't, and appear distinct.

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    Weren't the first Assyrians a causcausian people like ancient Akkadians?
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