Israeli ethnic cleansing of West Bank

[Tradra]

Netanhayu quoted Amelikites from their scripture to justify what they are doing, just to remind you in their Books God ordered Moses to commit mass genocide against the Amelikites. Yet no one seems to ask Jews to condemn his comments or their scriptures. I wonder why...?

Regarding jews accusing others of being "Edom" and "Amalek" and "Nephilim". I think they're projecting.

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of the first and the last, who was dead and came to life: I know your affliction and your poverty, even though you are rich. I know the slander on the part of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

[Tooting Carmen]

Personally. I don't feel any sympathy for the Arabs after Hamas' little action. If that's how the Israeli's want to cover their back, then so be it. But we shouldn't take in even one Arab.

You're conflating two issues here. One of which is mass Arab immigration, which I agree we should not have - at least not at the level currently experienced by many parts of Europe. But the other is Israel's behaviour in the disputed territories, which is often reckless and disproportionate. (And no, the Palestinians are certainly no saints either - even Mahmoud Abbas himself claims the Nazi collaborator Haj Amin el-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during WWII, to be his personal hero). Personally, I believe we in the West should stay out of this conflict - there are too many extremists and lunatics on both sides. (It is frightening how, compared to some of his coalition partners, Netanyahu actually looks 'moderate').

[Scarface F]

You're conflating two issues here. One of which is mass Arab immigration, which I agree we should not have - at least not at the level currently experienced by many parts of Europe. But the other is Israel's behaviour in the disputed territories, which is often reckless and disproportionate. (And no, the Palestinians are certainly no saints either - even Mahmoud Abbas himself claims the Nazi collaborator Haj Amin el-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during WWII, to be his personal hero). Personally, I believe we in the West should stay out of this conflict - there are too many extremists and lunatics on both sides. (It is frightening how, compared to some of his coalition partners, Netanyahu actually looks 'moderate').

These aren't disputed, but legally recognized Palestinian territories. It is main interest of Zionists to get rid of Arabs by sending them to Europe.

And yes, Natenyahu coalition partners are bunch of radicals.

[Tooting Carmen]

It's not low IQ. You need to think about this: why do they say this ? To make us look the other way, of course. It's pure gaslighting. Qatar, Iran and Russia are some of the biggest supporters of Islamic terror attacks on Europe.

Partly true, although don't forget that Russia has battled against its own Islamist insurgency in Chechnya for several years.

And what has Israel been since its very inception: a Western ally. And Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan ? Soviet, later Russian allies.

Actually, in the early years it was very much the other way round - Stalin himself sent arms to Israel and regarded it as a revolutionary and socialist nation. (Fidel Castro also believed this and wanted to model Cuba's agriculture on kibbutzim, even bringing in Israeli agricultural experts and scientists to assist the transformation. It was his alliance with the new Arab radicals, especially Gadaffi, that persuaded him to cut off ties with Israel in 1977 and switch wholesale to the Palestinian side). By contrast, Western countries initially saw the Arab states as more loyal and pliable. What you say only really applies from 1967 onwards.

[tk'es]

so-named jews in israel are not jews by genetics, hence recent foreign settlers in the middle east

[Scarface F]

It's not low IQ. You need to think about this: why do they say this ? To make us look the other way, of course. It's pure gaslighting. Qatar, Iran and Russia are some of the biggest supporters of Islamic terror attacks on Europe. And make no mistake about it: Russia has been supporting Islamic terror groups since the 1970s. And what has Israel been since its very inception: a Western ally. And Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan ? Soviet, later Russian allies. Jordan and Egypt later on, partially, joining our sphere of influence

I am pro Ukrainian.

West has supported Arab spring that brought islamic radicals in power and destroyed decent states such as Libya. In Syria Russia supported Assad while west supported his radical islamic opposition.

Gulf Arab states which are main sponsors of islamic terrorism and Arabic caliphates with mass human rights violations are main US allies in the region.

[Tooting Carmen]

These aren't disputed, but legally recognized Palestinian territories. It is main interest of Zionists to get rid of Arabs by sending them to Europe.

But the problem is there has never been a state called 'Palestine', and the West Bank and Gaza before 1967 were themselves under Jordanian and Egyptian occupation respectively. Also, it is patently ludicrous that even fourth-generation Palestinians in Jordan and Lebanon are still officially classified as 'refugees' despite never having stepped foot in Jericho or Ramallah, and are forbidden from owning property or working in certain occupations. If the neighbouring Arab states were more willing to take in Palestinians and grant them full rights, many though by no means all the issues would be resolved, but certainly there'd be far less Arab migration to Europe in the process.

And yes, Natenyahu coalition partners are bunch of radicals.

If by 'radicals' you mean lunatics, fruitcakes and extremists in many cases not much better than Hamas themselves, then yes.

[Tooting Carmen]

West has supported Arab spring that brought islamic radicals in power and destroyed decent states such as Libya. In Syria Russia supported Assad while west supported his radical islamic opposition.

True. In fact, before Gadaffi's overthrow in 2011, the UN itself said that Libya had the highest living standards in all of Africa and the Middle East - even more than the highly overrated Gulf Arab kingdoms. Since then, however, the country has become a wartorn mess with several warlords controlling different parts of the country, lawless bandits taking over oil fields in Libya to the point where (absurdly) the country now has to IMPORT most of its oil, more political prisoners than under Gadaffi himself, massacres of Black people under the pretext that they were mercenaries for the dictator...

Gulf Arab states which are main sponsors of islamic terrorism and Arabic caliphates with mass human rights violations are main US allies in the region.

True too.

[Scarface F]

But the problem is there has never been a state called 'Palestine', and the West Bank and Gaza before 1967 were themselves under Jordanian and Egyptian occupation respectively. Also, it is patently ludicrous that even fourth-generation Palestinians in Jordan and Lebanon are still officially classified as 'refugees' despite never having stepped foot in Jericho or Ramallah, and are forbidden from owning property or working in certain occupations. If the neighbouring Arab states were more willing to take in Palestinians and grant them full rights, many though by no means all the issues would be resolved, but certainly there'd be far less Arab migration to Europe in the process.



If by 'radicals' you mean lunatics, fruitcakes and extremists in many cases not much better than Hamas themselves, then yes.

Palestinians tried to overthrow government in Jordan and did problems in Lebanon too. Neighbouring Arab countries don't want them and they certainly are not welcome in Europe.

But that doesn't cancel the fact Palestine is their rightful land and 2 states solution (with destruction of illegal Jewish settlements in West Bank) is only just one. UN envisioned creation of Palestinian state which is partially recognized, and Israeli occupation of those lands is illegal.

[Tradra]

If you're worried about mass immigration to europe you should definitely not support Israel because they're the leading cause of it and if they start a major war in the middle east, guess where all the refugees will go?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ1BRHBErH8