AI generated Ydna

[chinshen]

The text (legend) is mine to portray the R1b clades found in respective archaeological sites. The image is from Southern Arc.

How different is R1b-L584 to R1b-L277.1 as ancestry is concerned?
Are they close subclades of R1b-L23?

[kingmob]

How different is R1b-L584 to R1b-L277.1 as ancestry is concerned?
Are they close subclades of R1b-L23?

They are contemporaries side branches.

Z2103 is downstream of L23.

[chinshen]

They are contemporaries side branches.

Z2103 is downstream of L23.

Thanks brother. Is the origin of L277.1 ancestry also from the same area as L584?

[kingmob]

Thanks brother. Is the origin of L277.1 ancestry also from the same area as L584?

R-A12332 (downstream of L584 for BA/IA) was found in BA/IA Georgia, Armenia and Iran, so it was for sure related to Yamnaya-Caucasus.

The particularities of L277.1 remain to be seen.

[kingmob]

MtDNA W6c (Turkey, Caucasus, Iran), Bronze Age:

[kingmob]

Modern man with a long grey beard and shaved head who has y-dna R-FT31418.





Pretty close!