Do Dutch People Feel Close to Germans or English?

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Germans, even if they are genetically closer to the English.

Depends. Maybe to Germany as a whole. But North Western Germans are almost indistinguishable to the Dutch genetically.

[ecptr]

Depends. Maybe to Germany as a whole. But North Western Germans are almost indistinguishable to the Dutch genetically.

North Dutch plot with Northwest Germans.

South Dutch plot with Rhinelanders and Bavarians.

From Eurogenes K13:

Distance to: Dutch_Limburg
3.15260210 German_North_Rhine
3.24009259 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
3.57659056 German_North_Hesse
4.08647770 German_South_Hesse
4.09516788 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
4.31951386 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.59324504 German_Saarland
5.14652310 German_Baden-Württemberg
6.06826993 German_Bavaria_Proper
6.69272740 German_North_Moravia
7.13520848 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
7.66358924 German_Lower_Saxony_South
7.78013496 German_Westphalia
8.87033821 German_West_Bohemia
8.99741630 German_Schleswig-Holstein
10.16523979 German_Thuringia_Central
10.20809973 German_Lower_Saxony_North
10.39573951 German_Saxony
10.50624576 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
11.13141051 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
11.15804082 German_Hither_Pomerania
11.16843767 German_North_Bohemia
11.47989983 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
11.70607107 German_Hamburg
12.25000408 German_Bavarian_Swabia
12.73704047 German_County_Glatz
12.85043190 German_Thuringia_East
13.12179104 German_Mecklenburg_West
14.15695589 German_Frisian
15.96356163 German_East_Prussia_Central
17.11002630 German_Farther_Pomerania
17.50623032 German_Lower_Silesia
18.35432374 German_West_Prussia
27.50875497 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
28.23831971 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
34.11157428 German_East_Prussia_Memelland

[#Oda#]

Subscribed. That being said, I havent had a single encounter with a Dutch person that wasnt genuinely (and I can tell the difference) friendly. If there is any coldness left from the world wars than I didnt feel it.

I did. In the 90s in Amsterdam a friend and I were insulted and shouted at by an elder Dutch man hearing us speaking German.

[Kess]

Germans, even if they are genetically closer to the English.

Anglos are the stepchild of the Germanic world I guess.

[PlattitüdenPaule]

I did. In the 90s in Amsterdam a friend and I were insulted and shouted at by an elder Dutch man hearing us speaking German.

Yeah, that still might had to do with the less than optimal WW2 experiences.

[Scarface F]

North Dutch plot with Northwest Germans.

South Dutch plot with Rhinelanders and Bavarians.

On north Europe G25 PCA Dutch overlap with English in 90%. We need more samples but surprisingly even NW Germans don't overlap the Dutch like English do. They barely touch each other. We have one NW German here, user Oda, and she scores minor Slavic than is lacking in the Dutch.

I don't think all NW Germans have Slavic but it seems surprisingly common for some reason.

Distance of 3 isn't that close btw.

[Scarface F]

[Davystayn]

I would imagine as there isn't a sea between the Netherlands and Germany it would always be Germany. SE England is different from western England though. Bavaria maybe different potentially too?

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Oof, barely made it into the furthermost fringe of the German cluster on that PCA. Identity crisis averted.

Would be interesting to see where Oda plots on this map.

[Rotterdam]

Eh..... between these categories, the answer is neither. The Flemish would be the correct answer if there were one.