Do Dutch People Feel Close to Germans or English?

[Kess]

Eh..... between these categories, the answer is neither. The Flemish would be the correct answer if there were one.

Meh, thank you captain obvious.

[ecptr]

On north Europe G25 PCA Dutch overlap with English in 90%. We need more samples but surprisingly even NW Germans don't overlap the Dutch like English do. They barely touch each other. We have one NW German here, user Oda, and she scores minor Slavic than is lacking in the Dutch.

I don't think all NW Germans have Slavic but it seems surprisingly common for some reason.

Distance of 3 isn't that close btw.

My point is that the Dutch as a whole are more Southern shifted than NW Germans.

[Rotterdam]

Meh, thank you captain obvious.

Hey, you're the one who made the poll. I will be obvious, when you are being stupid.

[Kess]

Hey, you're the one who made the poll. I will be obvious, when you are being stupid.

You are the only one who is being stupid and dull here.

[Dandelion]

Eh..... between these categories, the answer is neither. The Flemish would be the correct answer if there were one.

Blij te lezen dat een Rotterdammer er zo over denkt. Ik werk in Rotterdam als Vlaming en heb het er zeker naar mijn zin.

[Creoda]

To be fair in that PCA one English person juts out further East than any Dutch/Flemish, it's too few samples to be conclusive IMO.

On a related note here are Dutch regions closest English/German regions in K13:

Distance to: Dutch_South-Holland
1.51380316 English_East-Midlands
1.63859696 English_Northeast
1.70786416 English_Southeast
1.88512599 English_West-Midlands
1.96608749 English_East
2.44403355 German_Westphalia
2.58406656 German_Lower_Saxony_South
2.59980769 English_Lancashire
2.75963766 English_Yorkshire
2.88244688 English_Southwest
3.47362923 German_Schleswig-Holstein
4.71564418 German_Lower_Saxony_North
5.84758070 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
6.73510950 German_Hamburg
8.25912223 German_North_Rhine
8.53973067 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
8.64359879 German_Frisian
8.83816723 German_North_Hesse
9.07342273 German_North_Moravia
9.16455536 German_Hither_Pomerania

Distance to: Dutch_North-Holland
2.50225898 German_Westphalia
2.66244249 English_Yorkshire
2.78815351 English_Northeast
2.79524596 German_Lower_Saxony_South
2.79732015 English_Lancashire
3.05154059 German_Schleswig-Holstein
3.39303699 English_West-Midlands
3.59165700 English_Southeast
3.80831984 German_Lower_Saxony_North
3.81452487 English_East-Midlands
4.13360617 English_Southwest
4.23422956 English_East
5.09900971 German_Hamburg
6.24366879 German_Frisian
7.75262536 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
10.12719976 German_Hither_Pomerania
10.35211090 German_Mecklenburg_West
10.74195978 German_North_Rhine
10.93481138 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
10.99690866 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia

Distance to: Dutch_North-Brabant
1.45279042 English_East
1.93093242 English_East-Midlands
2.14711434 English_Southeast
2.68782440 English_West-Midlands
3.06480016 English_Southwest
3.21653540 English_Northeast
3.99192936 English_Lancashire
4.21906388 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
4.21982227 English_Yorkshire
4.60890443 German_Westphalia
4.67203382 German_Lower_Saxony_South
6.04643697 German_Schleswig-Holstein
6.21979099 German_North_Rhine
7.13104480 German_Lower_Saxony_North
7.19892353 German_North_Hesse
7.23482550 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
7.72324414 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
7.76159777 German_South_Hesse
7.77431669 German_Saarland
8.45843366 German_North_Moravia

Distance to: Dutch_Overijssel
2.06375871 German_Schleswig-Holstein
3.28902721 German_Westphalia
3.34131711 English_Lancashire
3.35827337 English_Yorkshire
3.51411440 English_Northeast
3.52862579 German_Lower_Saxony_South
3.69414401 German_Lower_Saxony_North
4.14860217 English_West-Midlands
4.15806445 German_Hamburg
4.43269670 English_Southeast
4.48203079 English_East-Midlands
4.84562689 English_Southwest
4.92285486 English_East
5.63803157 German_Frisian
8.52319189 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
9.79618165 German_Hither_Pomerania
9.90404968 German_Mecklenburg_West
10.90537024 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
11.28395764 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
11.44775961 German_North_Hesse

Distance to: Dutch_Limburg
3.15260210 German_North_Rhine
3.24009259 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
3.57659056 German_North_Hesse
4.08647770 German_South_Hesse
4.09516788 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
4.31951386 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
4.59324504 German_Saarland
4.78279207 English_East
5.14652310 German_Baden-Württemberg
5.61574572 English_East-Midlands
5.82661137 English_Southeast
6.06826993 German_Bavaria_Proper
6.31761822 English_West-Midlands
6.69272740 German_North_Moravia
6.79428436 English_Southwest
7.03218316 English_Northeast
7.13520848 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
7.66358924 German_Lower_Saxony_South
7.66468525 English_Lancashire
7.78013496 German_Westphalia

Distance to: Dutch_Gelderland
2.84824507 German_Westphalia
2.89236927 German_Lower_Saxony_South
3.14753872 English_Southeast
3.15117438 English_West-Midlands
3.16862746 English_Northeast
3.24347036 English_East
3.27783465 English_Lancashire
3.39087009 English_East-Midlands
3.44740482 English_Yorkshire
3.75247918 German_Schleswig-Holstein
4.30405623 English_Southwest
4.94892918 German_Lower_Saxony_North
5.63821780 German_Hamburg
6.02924539 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
7.74685743 German_Frisian
9.18546678 German_North_Hesse
9.21390797 German_North_Rhine
9.45742037 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
9.81561002 German_North_Moravia
9.93288352 German_Hither_Pomerania

Distance to: Dutch_Friesland
2.36220236 German_Schleswig-Holstein
2.52926867 German_Lower_Saxony_North
2.85947548 German_Westphalia
3.04396123 German_Lower_Saxony_South
3.62182275 German_Hamburg
4.07579440 English_Yorkshire
4.09073343 English_Northeast
4.23531581 English_Lancashire
4.86520298 English_West-Midlands
5.07981299 English_Southeast
5.20043267 English_East-Midlands
5.63882967 English_Southwest
5.70012281 English_East
5.81211665 German_Frisian
9.05133692 German_Mecklenburg_West
9.10667338 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
9.24892291 German_Hither_Pomerania
10.31179907 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
10.88215971 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
11.40520934 German_East_Prussia_Central

Distance to: Dutch_South-Holland
0.29922747 82.20% English_Lancashire + 17.80% German_Saxony
0.37520361 84.40% English_Lancashire + 15.60% German_Thuringia_East
0.38728957 88.60% English_Southeast + 11.40% German_East_Prussia_Central
0.48841833 83.40% English_Lancashire + 16.60% German_North_Bohemia
0.52705016 85.60% English_Lancashire + 14.40% German_County_Glatz

Distance to: Dutch_North-Holland
1.25352860 67.80% English_Yorkshire + 32.20% German_Hamburg
1.28987508 26.00% German_Frisian + 74.00% German_Westphalia
1.43725516 67.00% English_Lancashire + 33.00% German_Hamburg
1.48709149 67.40% English_Northeast + 32.60% German_Hamburg
1.51517678 55.80% English_Southwest + 44.20% German_Hamburg

Distance to: Dutch_North-Brabant
0.71915661 71.20% English_Northeast + 28.80% German_South_Hesse
0.79348771 65.00% English_Yorkshire + 35.00% German_South_Hesse
0.81979766 81.60% English_East-Midlands + 18.40% German_South_Hesse
0.84512467 79.60% English_Southeast + 20.40% German_South_Hesse
0.85558731 71.00% English_Southwest + 29.00% German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia

Distance to: Dutch_Overijssel
0.86994266 55.80% English_Lancashire + 44.20% German_Hamburg
0.90700358 55.60% English_Yorkshire + 44.40% German_Hamburg
1.12811202 46.00% English_Southwest + 54.00% German_Hamburg
1.27024065 54.80% English_Northeast + 45.20% German_Hamburg
1.38383525 50.00% English_West-Midlands + 50.00% German_Hamburg

Distance to: Dutch_Limburg
0.71774111 22.20% German_Frisian + 77.80% German_South_Hesse
0.75990857 46.00% English_East + 54.00% German_South_Hesse
0.96375283 34.40% English_Lancashire + 65.60% German_South_Hesse
0.97571043 38.80% English_West-Midlands + 61.20% German_South_Hesse
1.01720540 27.80% German_Hamburg + 72.20% German_Saarland

Distance to: Dutch_Gelderland
1.52121528 65.40% English_East + 34.60% German_Hamburg
1.60710426 39.20% German_Bavaria_Proper + 60.80% German_Frisian
1.70651610 43.40% German_Frisian + 56.60% German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
1.71202165 67.00% English_Southeast + 33.00% German_Hamburg
1.74499526 51.80% German_Hamburg + 48.20% German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine

Distance to: Dutch_Friesland
1.23137795 46.80% English_Yorkshire + 53.20% German_Hamburg
1.24251767 31.20% German_Frisian + 68.80% German_Westphalia
1.33198670 46.60% English_Northeast + 53.40% German_Hamburg
1.38356261 32.40% German_Frisian + 67.60% German_Lower_Saxony_South
1.45765555 45.40% English_Lancashire + 54.60% German_Hamburg

[Creoda]

To be fair in that PCA one English person juts out further East than any Dutch/Flemish, it's too few samples to be conclusive IMO.

On a related note here are Dutch regions closest English/German regions in K13:
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Distance to: Dutch_South
3.96769454 English_Southeast
4.02934238 English_East-Midlands
4.11729280 English_East
4.23035460 English_West-Midlands
4.33656546 English
4.94715070 English_Lancashire
5.16758164 English_Northeast
5.56697404 English_Yorkshire
6.26628279 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
6.26952151 English_Southwest
6.27816056 German
6.89732557 German_Northwest
6.98930612 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
7.04075990 German_South
7.30991792 German_Lower_Saxony_South
7.38144295 German_Hesse_South
7.38653505 German_North_Rhine
7.40865710 German_Westphalia
8.00308066 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
8.82537818 German_Bavaria_proper

Distance to: Dutch_North
3.84897389 German_Lower_Saxony_North
4.08238901 German_Schleswig-Holstein
4.95467456 German_Westphalia
5.16084295 German_Northwest
6.37062006 English_Yorkshire
6.67535767 German_Frisian
6.68623212 German_Lower_Saxony_South
7.54561462 English_Lancashire
7.65221537 English
7.75210939 English_Southeast
7.77788532 English_West-Midlands
8.16785161 English_East-Midlands
8.23961771 English_Northeast
8.30345109 English_East
9.19960325 English_Southwest
10.29163252 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
11.17033124 German
11.41955341 German_Mecklenburg_West
11.55781554 German_Hither_Pomerania
12.38106619 German_East_Prussia_Central

Distance to: Dutch_Central
3.10217666 German_Northwest
3.15920876 German_Westphalia
3.87700916 English_Yorkshire
4.15002410 English_East
4.17077930 English_Southeast
4.17858828 English
4.19326841 English_West-Midlands
4.21157928 English_East-Midlands
4.40475879 English_Lancashire
4.47668404 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.41783167 German_Schleswig-Holstein
5.58373531 English_Northeast
6.42042055 German_Lower_Saxony_North
6.48593093 English_Southwest
7.79732646 German
8.96667162 German_Frisian
10.20263691 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
10.28161952 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
10.58530585 German_North_Rhine
10.76192827 German_Hither_Pomerania

Distance to: Dutch
3.22690254 German_Northwest
3.47793042 German_Westphalia
3.49158990 English_Yorkshire
3.77348645 English_Southeast
3.83334058 English_West-Midlands
3.85727883 English
4.06270846 English_East-Midlands
4.10130467 English_East
4.21821052 English_Lancashire
4.70804630 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.09771517 English_Northeast
5.18697407 German_Schleswig-Holstein
6.22574494 English_Southwest
6.59749953 German_Lower_Saxony_North
7.60459729 German
9.29466514 German_Frisian
9.77915129 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
10.11535961 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
10.33616467 German_North_Rhine
10.54637853 German_Hither_Pomerania


Distance to: NED_Zeeland(n=3)
4.70796134 English_East
5.25031428 English_Southeast
5.55697760 English
5.57913076 English_West-Midlands
5.59964285 English_East-Midlands
6.05589795 English_Lancashire
6.63824525 English_Northeast
6.73810062 English_Yorkshire
6.81928882 English_Southwest
6.90777099 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
6.97213741 German
7.48465764 German_Hesse_South
7.49999333 German_Northwest
8.14315050 German_South
8.46632742 German_Lower_Saxony_South
8.54358239 German_Westphalia
8.78169118 German_North_Rhine
8.79923292 German_West_Bohemia
9.21203018 German_Schleswig-Holstein
9.23629255 German_Bavaria_proper

Distance to: NED_South-Holland(n=24)
3.81167942 German_Northwest
4.00615776 English_East
4.13361827 English_Southeast
4.13946856 German_Westphalia
4.26210042 English_West-Midlands
4.30272007 English_East-Midlands
4.30404461 English
4.43684573 English_Yorkshire
4.62595936 English_Lancashire
4.66661548 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.69607760 English_Northeast
5.70455081 German_Schleswig-Holstein
6.65294672 German
6.78678864 English_Southwest
7.28901914 German_Lower_Saxony_North
9.13858851 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
9.42238293 German_North_Rhine
9.57735872 German_Frisian
9.67150971 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
10.11669412 German_West_Bohemia

Distance to: NED_Overijssel(n=2)
5.21704897 English_Lancashire
5.21802645 English_Northeast
5.73540757 English_Yorkshire
5.83346381 English
5.86879034 English_East-Midlands
5.89850829 English_Southwest
6.00747867 English_West-Midlands
6.45845957 English_Southeast
6.80355789 English_East
8.05503569 German_Lower_Saxony_South
8.38456916 German_Northwest
8.50140577 German_Westphalia
10.49627077 German_Lower_Saxony_North
10.80001389 German_Frisian
10.87531149 German_Schleswig-Holstein
11.72703714 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
11.75147650 German
12.03668559 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
13.04568894 German_Hither_Pomerania
13.29032355 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine

Distance to: NED_North-Holland(n=5)
4.37428851 German_Westphalia
4.93557494 German_Northwest
5.26964894 English_Yorkshire
5.41048981 German_Lower_Saxony_North
5.98179739 German_Schleswig-Holstein
6.18655801 English_Lancashire
6.40417052 English
6.52593288 English_Southeast
6.55756815 English_West-Midlands
6.57892848 German_Lower_Saxony_South
6.81209953 English_East
6.85428333 English_East-Midlands
7.46596946 English_Northeast
7.77506270 German_Frisian
7.83926655 English_Southwest
11.10301310 German
11.24475433 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
12.20434759 German_Hither_Pomerania
12.28722100 German_Mecklenburg_West
13.03427021 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine

Distance to: NED_North-Brabant(n=8)
3.81202046 English_West-Midlands
3.84836329 English_East
3.85270035 English_Lancashire
3.88720980 English
4.02022387 English_Southeast
4.17490120 English_East-Midlands
4.27524268 English_Northeast
4.91886166 English_Yorkshire
5.24414912 English_Southwest
6.69463218 German_Northwest
6.87398720 German_Lower_Saxony_South
6.88908557 German
7.08345961 German_Westphalia
8.38462283 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
8.47334055 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
8.94919549 German_Schleswig-Holstein
9.35384947 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
9.45634707 German_South
9.51437334 German_Hesse_South
9.58985401 German_West_Bohemia

Distance to: NED_Limburg(n=5)
6.98621500 German_North_Rhine
7.02999289 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
7.23196377 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
7.57546038 German_South
7.74577950 English_Southeast
7.79061615 English_East-Midlands
7.93407840 German_Hesse_South
7.97959899 English_West-Midlands
7.98296937 English_East
8.28295237 English
8.34791591 German_Baden-Württemberg
9.11153116 German
9.22624517 English_Lancashire
9.22632104 English_Northeast
9.22719351 English_Yorkshire
9.41565717 German_Northwest
9.71070543 German_Saarland
9.74279734 German_Westphalia
10.07435358 English_Southwest
10.21094511 German_Lower_Saxony_South

Distance to: NED_Groningen(n=1)
7.29763660 German_Lower_Saxony_North
7.55157599 German_Frisian
8.66773327 German_Schleswig-Holstein
9.28561253 German_Northwest
9.33323631 English_Yorkshire
9.38915864 German_Westphalia
9.79363058 English_West-Midlands
9.90665433 English_Lancashire
9.91936490 German_Lower_Saxony_South
9.96820947 English_Northeast
10.13316831 English
10.48018607 English_Southeast
10.74375633 English_East-Midlands
10.79198777 English_East
11.03001360 English_Southwest
12.03410570 German_East_Prussia_Central
12.89496026 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
13.25393149 German_Mecklenburg_West
13.39643983 German_Hither_Pomerania
13.70995259 German

Distance to: NED_Gelderland(n=6)
3.69588961 German_Northwest
4.07757281 German_Lower_Saxony_South
4.16920856 German_Westphalia
4.26648567 English_East-Midlands
4.43217779 English_West-Midlands
4.60885018 English_Yorkshire
4.82888186 English
4.91786539 English_East
5.24493089 English_Southeast
5.24707538 English_Lancashire
5.56070139 English_Northeast
6.72299041 English_Southwest
7.09381421 German_Schleswig-Holstein
7.32656127 German_Lower_Saxony_North
7.86531627 German
10.17412896 German_Frisian
10.46498925 German_Hither_Pomerania
10.53317616 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
10.76961466 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
10.79677730 German_Rhineland-Palatinate

Distance to: NED_Friesland(n=12)
4.10031706 German_Lower_Saxony_North
5.30408333 German_Schleswig-Holstein
5.93017706 German_Westphalia
6.24519015 German_Frisian
6.31416661 German_Northwest
7.01013552 English_Yorkshire
7.25980027 German_Lower_Saxony_South
8.15804511 English_Lancashire
8.43765370 English
8.60154637 English_Southeast
8.63498118 English_West-Midlands
8.79882379 English_Northeast
9.02599579 English_East-Midlands
9.24511222 English_East
9.77508568 English_Southwest
10.30726443 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
11.48286550 German_Mecklenburg_West
11.56524535 German_Hither_Pomerania
12.07736312 German
12.33787664 German_East_Prussia_Central


Distance to: Dutch_South
2.11757663 59.80% German_Baden-Württemberg + 40.20% German_Frisian
2.27496985 66.20% English_Lancashire + 33.80% German_Baden-Württemberg
2.34679657 72.80% English_Southeast + 27.20% German_Baden-Württemberg
2.35384816 67.60% English_Southeast + 32.40% German_South
2.42226587 66.00% German_South + 34.00% German_Frisian

Distance to: Dutch_North
2.51940501 33.20% English_Yorkshire + 66.80% German_Lower_Saxony_North
2.66792018 24.00% English_Southwest + 76.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North
2.70569352 28.00% English_Lancashire + 72.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North
2.73955474 25.80% English_Northeast + 74.20% German_Lower_Saxony_North
2.75594357 27.00% English_Southeast + 73.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North

Distance to: Dutch_Central
1.58000253 40.00% English_Lancashire + 60.00% German_Westphalia
1.63359606 41.20% English_West-Midlands + 58.80% German_Westphalia
1.63690912 62.00% English_East + 38.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North
1.64104501 41.40% English_Southeast + 58.60% German_Westphalia
1.64565890 41.20% English + 58.80% German_Westphalia

Distance to: Dutch
1.37341235 56.60% English_East-Midlands + 43.40% German_Schleswig-Holstein
1.43018216 64.80% English_Southeast + 35.20% German_Lower_Saxony_North
1.55665858 58.40% English + 41.60% German_Schleswig-Holstein
1.57088724 47.40% English_Southeast + 52.60% German_Westphalia
1.58538024 58.60% English_West-Midlands + 41.40% German_Schleswig-Holstein


Distance to: NED_Zeeland(n=3)
2.76816388 35.80% German_Frisian + 64.20% German_Hesse_South
3.56640806 56.40% German_Hesse_South + 43.60% German_Schleswig-Holstein
3.57594893 68.20% English_East + 31.80% German_Hesse_South
3.65420689 80.00% English_East + 20.00% German_County_Glatz
3.69553108 50.00% German_Northwest + 50.00% German_Hesse_South

Distance to: NED_South-Holland(n=24)
2.01039688 43.60% German_Baden-Württemberg + 56.40% German_Frisian
2.14595622 49.60% German_Frisian + 50.40% German_North_Rhine
2.21632877 61.20% English_East + 38.80% German_Schleswig-Holstein
2.32897985 59.00% English_East-Midlands + 41.00% German_Schleswig-Holstein
2.36499609 47.80% German_South + 52.20% German_Frisian

Distance to: NED_Overijssel(n=2)
4.88689516 84.00% English_Northeast + 16.00% German_Frisian
5.03547416 50.00% English_Lancashire + 50.00% English_Northeast
5.05913236 87.80% English_Northeast + 12.20% German_Lower_Saxony_North
5.14134767 88.40% English_Northeast + 11.60% German_Westphalia
5.16363683 92.80% English_Lancashire + 7.20% German_Frisian

Distance to: NED_North-Holland(n=5)
3.05362632 51.00% English_Yorkshire + 49.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North
3.10537491 45.20% English_Lancashire + 54.80% German_Lower_Saxony_North
3.14908757 38.00% English_Southwest + 62.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North
3.26404024 44.00% English + 56.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North
3.28897508 43.20% English_Southeast + 56.80% German_Lower_Saxony_North

Distance to: NED_North-Brabant(n=8)
2.19516220 77.00% English_West-Midlands + 23.00% German_North_Moravia
2.57604168 78.00% English + 22.00% German_North_Moravia
2.58148387 81.60% English_Lancashire + 18.40% German_County_Glatz
2.58405041 81.20% English_Lancashire + 18.80% German_North_Bohemia
2.63312326 80.20% English_Lancashire + 19.80% German_Thuringia_Central

Distance to: NED_Limburg(n=5)
4.99182178 58.00% German_Baden-Württemberg + 42.00% German_Schleswig-Holstein
5.17403463 34.20% German_Schleswig-Holstein + 65.80% German_Rhineland-Palatinate
5.19164697 52.60% German_Saarland + 47.40% German_Schleswig-Holstein
5.23470726 60.40% German_Hesse_South + 39.60% German_Schleswig-Holstein
5.24687766 62.40% German_South + 37.60% German_Schleswig-Holstein

Distance to: NED_Groningen(n=1)
6.47678950 33.80% English_Northeast + 66.20% German_Frisian
6.54647197 46.20% German_Frisian + 53.80% German_Lower_Saxony_North
6.55739180 34.00% English_West-Midlands + 66.00% German_Frisian
6.63605152 29.00% English_Northeast + 71.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North
6.71292320 34.80% English_Yorkshire + 65.20% German_Frisian

Distance to: NED_Gelderland(n=6)
2.73253556 67.40% English_East-Midlands + 32.60% German_Lower_Saxony_North
2.75460056 49.00% English_East-Midlands + 51.00% German_Westphalia
2.77585301 47.40% English_West-Midlands + 52.60% German_Westphalia
2.78775227 42.80% English_East-Midlands + 57.20% German_Northwest
2.79244582 41.20% English_West-Midlands + 58.80% German_Northwest

Distance to: NED_Friesland(n=12)
3.22239329 29.00% English_Yorkshire + 71.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North
3.33242383 20.60% English_Southwest + 79.40% German_Lower_Saxony_North
3.36147411 24.00% English_Lancashire + 76.00% German_Lower_Saxony_North
3.36415771 22.40% English_Northeast + 77.60% German_Lower_Saxony_North
3.49451897 21.80% English + 78.20% German_Lower_Saxony_North

[#Oda#]

Oof, barely made it into the furthermost fringe of the German cluster on that PCA. Identity crisis averted.

Would be interesting to see where Oda plots on this map.

[Creoda]

Would you mind posting your coordinates?

[Anglo-Celtic]

I would imagine as there isn't a sea between the Netherlands and Germany it would always be Germany. SE England is different from western England though. Bavaria maybe different potentially too?

That's a good point. People don't realize the differences between the Eastern English and the Western English. Most of my English forebears come from the latter region, and I think that's one reason why we match the Irish more than the Eastern English on 23andMe. Of course, my Irish, Western Scottish, and Welsh don't hurt.