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    Default Steppes are 66-72% ANE.

    Is it true? Both their ANE comes from CHG & EHG. Sometimes a ratio between 50-85% EHG and the rest CHG. But I challenge that idea with likely another scenario that would be mostly EHG drifted with some AHG rich Farmer ancestry.

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    In a statement I remember that 'Steppe people could really just be EHG + drift' as evident by their large Ancient North Eurasian ancestry.
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    And importantly 15.0%+ Early East Asian (Tianyuan-related), that’s where they get their Qs and Rs from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abti View Post
    Is it true? Both their ANE comes from CHG & EHG. Sometimes a ratio between 50-85% EHG and the rest CHG. But I challenge that idea with likely another scenario that would be mostly EHG drifted with some AHG rich Farmer ancestry.
    There are clearly no obvious CHG uniparentals in Steppe, so I don’t know what people still think Steppes are part CHG when they clearly weren’t. Just some population that was closely related to them. Sure one J1 in Khvalynsk and a J1 in EHG doesn’t really mean anything. But all mtdna looks like Eastern Forager (U), Basal (X-W-I) & Farmer (T-J-H) mediated.

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    Huh? Of Yamnaya samples they're 50% ANE, not 3/4. And yes they were mixed with CHG, mixed or mixed with another pop that was so darn close to CHG that they appeared as the same in a DNA test, that's pretty much the same thing and it's just splitting hairs if they aren't "exactly" CHG admixed (which the academic consensus is that they are.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    Huh? Of Yamnaya samples they're 50% ANE, not 3/4. And yes they were mixed with CHG, mixed or mixed with another pop that was so darn close to CHG that they appeared as the same in a DNA test, that's pretty much the same thing and it's just splitting hairs if they aren't "exactly" CHG admixed (which the academic consensus is that they are.)
    "Academic consesus" said Levant_N were Half Basal half UHG when they were mostly Dzudzuana + Basal. You see, even academics aren’t that great and they can be pretty bad too. 50% ANE??? No dude you lost your head they’re much more than that. If they truly were 50% ANE how are udmirts getting 45% ANE despite the fact that they’re only 60-70% Yamnaya as a whole?

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    No.
    Anglo Saxon + Frank (4.336)
    Viking Danish + Frank (4.338)
    Gael + Frank (4.39)
    Anglo Saxon (4.393)
    Viking Danish + Anglo Saxon (4.568)

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