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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKnight View Post
    I been married for four years (on my mother's life) only woman I've touched, kissed and slept with (all that time) has been with my wife, so before you come here with your big f*ggt mouth, think twice before saying something.



    Oh jeez, DUH! ofcourse it has been banned! because it's not convenient to the powers to be.

    World Population Density: 16/km2 (41/sq mile) ---- do you can that overpopulated hun? ???


    Yes the world is overpopulated. Just using World Population Density doesn't help with water scarcity and the amount of arable land that can sustain large populations. Look at Africa where there is famine and where polygamy is practiced? Are they doing well?

    Polygamy is banned because it is not sustainable and against western and Christian values. Also studies on polygamy show that it has a very bad impact on women's psychology. They are at a much higher risk of depression and low self-esteem.

    There are practical reasons why polygamy is problematic. How is one man going to support say 4 wives and 12 or 16 children? Do you think the tax payer should support this? In western countries people are not going to be wanting their tax dollar supporting one man having 16 children with 4 wives.

    In western societies there is no place for polygamy where women have equal rights and the same would be for polyandry. If you are a Christian polygamy is not allowed. It is in conflict with Roman Catholic teaching.

    In short our welfare system cannot support polygamy and the world does not need one man having a large amount of children. I don't agree with cousin marriages either. A lot of these practices should be history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Yes the world is overpopulated. Just using World Population Density doesn't help with water scarcity and the amount of arable land that can sustain large populations. Look at Africa where there is famine and where polygamy is practiced? Are they doing well?

    Polygamy is banned because it is not sustainable and against western and Christian values. Also studies on polygamy show that it has a very bad impact on women's psychology. They are at a much higher risk of depression and low self-esteem.

    There are practical reasons why polygamy is problematic. How is one man going to support say 4 wives and 12 or 16 children? Do you think the tax payer should support this? In western countries people are not going to be wanting their tax dollar supporting one man having 16 children with 4 wives.

    In western societies there is no place for polygamy where women have equal rights and the same would be for polyandry. If you are a Christian polygamy is not allowed. It is in conflict with Roman Catholic teaching.

    In short our welfare system cannot support polygamy and the world does not need one man having a large amount of children. I don't agree with cousin marriages either. A lot of these practices should be history.
    Of course it's psychologically damaging to women.
    God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eves. Even Jesus said that man is to separate from his parent and cleave to his `wife` not `wives`. God permitted many things that were non-ideal in the past, it was a different time back then where there was less men than women since men usually died in wars/much more violence back then, also, if your enemies are all polygynous producing mass amounts of children who will later rise up to kill you, it makes sense to have permitted the Israelites to have also been polygynous then so they can better defend themselves with numbers. Not that polygyny is just as good for a relationship as monogamy, it's obviously not. God never commanded anyone to take more than 1 wife/partner btw.

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    Neither shall he multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away—Deuteronomy 17:17

    When we read the Bible’s stories of individuals who practiced polygamy, we don’t read about men living in happiness and marital bliss with their multiple wives. When we are given details of these marriages, we mostly read about drama, strife and jealousy. For example, see the sad stories of Abram, Sarai and Hagar (Genesis 16); Jacob, Leah and Rachel (Genesis 29-30); and King Solomon and his hundreds of wives and concubines (1 Kings 11:1-4).

    Polygamy was never God’s intent or something that pleased Him. Like divorce, it was allowed because of the “hardness” of the people’s hearts in Old Covenant times (Matthew 19:8). In New Testament times, God expects His people to practice marriage only as He originally designed and intended it: between one man and one woman.

    It is only through lifelong monogamy that we can truly understand the spiritual symbolism of marriage as a picture of the deep relationship between Jesus Christ and the Church (Ephesians 5:22-32).

    https://lifehopeandtruth.com/relatio...bout-polygamy/
    Also: https://www.logos.com/grow/does-jesu...t-on-polygamy/

    Enforcing monogamy may have cleared away a scandal, but it created a new problem for the church. Suddenly there were more widows without husbands and without support because they couldn’t become anyone’s second wife. To try to help these widows, the church created a new type of social club for them—a widows’ association.

    This spread outside Palestine as a good solution to a problem they shared because no polygamy was allowed outside Palestine. It was one of the first things the fledgling church did, and right from the start it was problematic—Greek-speaking widows complained that the Aramaic speakers were being given more food, for one thing (Acts 6:1)! Young Timothy, leading the church in Ephesus, had other problems with his widows, and Paul had to write a whole chapter to help him cope (1 Tim 5). Nevertheless, this association was a good solution to their needs, and it was far better than expecting these women to each find a new husband.

    Why did Jesus and Paul change God’s commands? Had God always been in favor of monogamy so that they were now returning to his original wishes? Although Jesus said that this was how things were at the “beginning,” this doesn’t mean that God had subsequently given the wrong commands to Moses. It was the purpose of these commands, rather than the commands themselves, that was important. It was God’s purpose that Jesus and Paul were upholding.

    God’s purpose for marriage was to help individuals find mutual support in families. When there were too few men due to warfare, this purpose was accomplished by allowing polygamy to ensure male heirs. In more stable times, polygamy resulted in many men remaining single because wealthy men could have many wives. In order to maintain God’s purposes at times like these, the rule about polygamy had to change. God’s purposes are eternal, but his commands change in order to carry out those purposes in different situations. We might summarize God’s purpose in the words of Psalm 68:6: “God sets the lonely in families.”

    We can feel smug that our society doesn’t allow polygamy, but in some ways, we are like the Romans, whose law was based on a morality that most didn’t follow. Despite their official condemnation of polygamy, many respectable Romans had multiple marriages because divorce was easily obtained and mistresses were openly accepted. Eurydice, a newlywed Roman wife in the first century, was given advice about a happy marriage by Plutarch: “If your husband commits some peccadillo with a paramour or a maidservant, you ought not to be indignant or angry, because it is respect for you which leads him to share his debauchery, licentiousness, and wantonness with another woman.” In other words, extramarital sex was so normal that she shouldn’t take offense.

    In modern Western societies, various surveys have revealed that 13 percent of women and 20 percent of men commit adultery—and this is likely to be underreported by those who are questioned. Perhaps soap operas represent our society more accurately than we’d like to believe.

    Jesus criticized polygamy as a warped version of the lifelong committed relationship of a one-plus-one marriage. Our society recognizes that this is a very special relationship, and we strive toward it, but in many cases, we fail. So much time and money are often spent on the wedding and an almost equal amount on a subsequent divorce, but often we spend little time, care, and attention on the marriage itself.

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    @SilverKnight: would you be happy to be married to a woman who had other husbands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKnight View Post
    I been married for four years (on my mother's life) only woman I've touched, kissed and slept with (all that time) has been with my wife, so before you come here with your big f*ggt mouth, think twice before saying something.
    Well alright, but I do remember you defending the sexual double standard in the past.

    Oh jeez, DUH! ofcourse it has been banned! because it's not convenient to the powers to be.

    World Population Density: 16/km2 (41/sq mile) ---- do you can that overpopulated hun? ???
    Speaking of which: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-to-their-size

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    @SilverKnight: would you be happy to be married to a woman who had other husbands?

    Well, no, that's polyandry, and clearly a sin (if you take your time to watch the video on the opening post that explains why.) Here let me help ya out - Minute: 2:33

    One head of the household.. like God intended it to be since creation (Genesis), not multiple heads of the household which creates chaos.
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    Imagine identifying as a religious slave who blindly follows a certain manmade religion and can only be allowed by the manmade book of that certain religion he follows to do something he wants to because if the book said otherwise he'd have to repress himself and do the "opposite". Literally justifying whatever you want to do to religious slaves based on le holy book scripture.

    Anyway, this vid is p cool
    https://rumble.com/v1lrg6t-polyamory...l-illness.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmt160 View Post
    Imagine identifying as a religious slave who blindly follows a certain manmade religion and can only be allowed by the manmade book of that certain religion he follows to do something he wants to because if the book said otherwise he'd have to repress himself and do the "opposite". Literally justifying whatever you want to do to religious slaves based on le holy book scripture.

    Anyway, this vid is p cool
    https://rumble.com/v1lrg6t-polyamory...l-illness.html

    If you're economically and mentally stable, find yourself a 2nd, 3rd..4th etc wife.. it's within out nature as men to protect and shelter.. nothing wrong with having multiple wives.. Today's society is so messed up (and you don't even have to be Christian/ religious) because we have been thought that monogamy is the only way way, yet take a look at the alarming amount of divorces,
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