The Axis of freedom,How Russia is destroying American liberal order in the mud of Ukrainian plains!

[Tooting Carmen]

It's just a form of marketing, once their power is established they end up being worse than the West is.

The moment their interests are affected, their reactions are more brutal and repressive, and we have many examples in history that show this, of internal repression and repression in countries that try to distance themselves from their influence.

And while trying to accept that I could be wrong, I could accept that they could, being positive at maximum, the same.

It is clear that everything must be rethought again, it is clear that not everything has to be planned in such a way that the interests of USA is always the one who comes out favored (and here I separate the USA from Europe) but NOT LIKE THIS.

They lie more blatantly and cynically than Western leaders, they get rid of any criticism and opposition in a more brutal and ruthless way, vital options in their societies are extremely limited.

That's my point - the West (including the US) is better than them in terms of how it operates internally, but is it really true that Soviet or Chinese client states in SE Asia, Africa and Latin America have been much if at all worse than Western client states in those continents? For Castro and Ortega read Pinochet and indeed Somoza, for Mengistu and Macias Nguema read Mobutu and Samuel Doe (before his expulsion of the Ugandan Indians, Idi Amin was a Western puppet too), for Pol Pot read Suharto...

[gixajo]

25 years in power to once again create a semi-Soviet state but without communism, the world separated into two blocks, start again with wars in Europe, and have only achieved that the two most important cities achieve a level of development relatively similar to the one I have in my town of a thousand inhabitants in a "poor" Southern European country.

What the hell are you going to be able to offer me...?

Sell ​​me cheap gas, use the money to improve the lives of your citizens, stay in your country without touching the balls of your neighbors and don't bore me with children's stories about "happy and prosperous multipolar worlds" with unicorns for the children.

And you Russian citizens, let's see if you do something more than blame everything on the West and start, as in the past, to target those who really directly influence your lives: your leaders.

[Victor]

and have only achieved that the two most important cities

You will repeat it for next 20 years until your balls will become bald as your head. Just like same parrots repeat various things in 2024 about Russia actual for 1993.

[gixajo]

That's my point - the West (including the US) is better than them in terms of how it operates internally, but is it really true that Soviet or Chinese client states in SE Asia, Africa and Latin America have been much if at all worse than Western client states in those continents? For Castro and Ortega read Pinochet and indeed Somoza, for Mengistu and Macias Nguema read Mobutu and Samuel Doe (before his expulsion of the Ugandan Indians, Idi Amin was a Western puppet too), for Pol Pot read Suharto...

Well, that's it, they have nothing to sell us, but as commission salespeople they do nothing more than time and time again boring us with their dialectical juggling games.

They want to sell us a product that most likely many of them know is in poor condition and is of no use.

[Victor]

And you Russian citizens, let's see if you do something more than blame everything on the West and start, as in the past, to target those who really directly influence your lives: your leaders.

We don't blame you for anything, we just tell you to f off from our lawn and trade with us if you want to, if you don't want, it's the matter of choice.

[Victor]

Well, that's it, they have nothing to sell us, but as commission salespeople they do nothing more than time and time again boring us with their dialectical juggling games.

They want to sell us a product that most likely many of them know is in poor condition and is of no use.

Nah, we just get into your pathetic moralistic games and it looks like we want to sell you something just as you say. It would be sooner China who will buy your ass, not Russia, anyway.

[gixajo]

You will repeat it for next 20 years until your balls will become bald as your head. Just like same parrots repeat various things in 2024 about Russia actual for 1993.

I understand that you don't like it, but is it true or isn't it?

[Victor]

I understand that you don't like it, but is it true or isn't it?

Sure it is not.

[gixajo]

Nah, we just get into your pathetic moralistic games and it looks like we want to sell you something just as you say. It would be sooner China who will buy your ass, not Russia, anyway.

There you are right, you really don't count anymore, you are debtors to China right now.

[gixajo]

Sure it is not.

I don't want to embarrass you by comparing the proportion, proximity and quality of the services in your city with those of my town of a thousand inhabitants, Victor.

After all, you are in an area close to war.

But hey! You will surely pay less for gas and gasoline. At least I hope so.

Victor, this is not you against me.