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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    As i said, Ankara isnt the only city in Turkey and its only capital because its the safer position than historical and socio-political capital of Turkey which is one of the greatest cities in the history of Europe. On the other hand, you still have no word for Yerevan. Who is emotional now?
    Yerevan is not part of Europe either.

    But culturally as Christians they can find connections with European Orthodox Christian countries, unlike Muslims and Jews deep in west Asia, wanting to participate in European competitions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Israel, Turkey, Azerbaijan should create their one competition league, along with Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, Iraq etc.
    They all are not Europe, and should embrace West Asian identity, instead having inferiority complex toward Europe.
    West Asian identity? Have you been watching the news lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Yerevan is not part of Europe either.

    But culturally as Christians they can find connections with European Orthodox Christian countries, unlike Muslims and Jews deep in west Asia, wanting to participate in European competitions.
    Thanks. As you clearly show, your point isnt geographical logic, but religious hatred toward my country/nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Thanks. As you clearly show, your point isnt geographical logic, but religious hatred toward my country/nation.
    You are welcome.
    Embrace your true identity instead wanting to be European.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    You are welcome.
    Embrace your true identity instead wanting to be European.
    I have been european since my birth, theres no need to change my identity. If youre too pissed of, you can blame those who accepted my country to UEFA and have given me impression of being part of europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florstadt View Post
    West Asian identity? Have you been watching the news lately?
    Well you are living there.
    It is more natural to embrace that identity, instead trying to create fake European identity where it does not exist.
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    Eurovision is a bit of a degenerate competition. It's supposed to be about music, but it often turns into a competition of who can put on the craziest show, overshadowing the real talent. Sometimes it feels like it's more about the spectacle than the actual music – a competition for the most outrageous show rather than genuine talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Well you are living there.
    It is more natural to embrace that identity, instead trying to create fake European identity where it does not exist.
    Its different in the case of the state of Israel, as many are European ethnically

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    But culturally as Christians they can find connections with European Orthodox Christian countries, unlike Muslims and Jews deep in west Asia, wanting to participate in European competitions.
    In my opinion askenazi jews are europeans as well. They migrated here almost 2000 years ago, they look european, their culture is european.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Well you are living there.
    It is more natural to embrace that identity, instead trying to create fake European identity where it does not exist.
    So? Does it mean we share common culture with all neighboring countries? After 2000 years?
    We don't share a common culture with Europe either, by the way, we have our own culture. Which is a blend of the Jewish identity and various influences, including from Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.

    And just for your knowledge, the Latin alphabet that most Europeans use today, had been developed from the Phoenician alphabet, which is "West Asian" alphabet, same goes for Christianity, which is an Abrahamic religion. So let's take your idea to the absurd, shall European give up on their alphabet and religion because of its "foreign" origin? Of course not.

    Europe isn't some isolated landmass that magically appeared; it's been in constant interaction with the MENA world and way beyond. Europe culture is not "pure". And this artificial distinction doesn't really serve it's purpose, nor it has any meaning in the given discussion and given context.

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