Is USA the real enemy of Europe?

[Scarface F]

I think they're backwards too, but I notice there seems to be some on here who think Russia is a far greater than the west. I was just wondering if the reason I think they are backwards are the same as yours. Speaking of Russia here btw

Russia is corrupted post Soviet state and Empire filled with non Europeans. I don't see anything great there at all, even if I am a fan of Russian people and culture.

[Dragoon]

I think it was Francis Yockey who wrote about an Outer Enemy and Jew-America (occupying Europe, capitalist, materialistic) as a big danger to Europe.

[Oghuz]

Not enemy but the people who control the American economy and foriegn policies as a consequence, have put a slow chokehold on Europe by directly influencing the same of EU. EU countries went deep into foreign debt with meaningless jobber economies and shrinking industrial sectors. In-debt governments with aging populations became mere administrators as without an independent economy of their own they can not make independent decisions such as reformed socio-economic policies or having industrial trade contracts with US designated resource rich "rogue" nations.

Meanwhile, NATO model made EU militaries weak to the point that remove France not a single EU country possess any indigenous strategic military arm anymore. It is an alarming situation.

[robertb]

You all have it the wrong way, the US needs to dump Europe except for the UK. Bunch of backbiters, today the US and UK striking targets in Yemen. Red Sea trade routes a hell lot more important to Europe than the US.

Until Europeans decide to put their big boy pants on you will be pushed around and told what to do by countries like the US and Russia. We don't push the UK around because they know how the world is unlike most people here living in fairytale land.

[Creoda]

The US is its own enemy these days.

As are the governments in Europe their own people's worst enemies these days. Anyone in the West looking abroad for their biggest threat is missing the forest from the trees.

Americans vs Europeans as peoples aren't enemies, neither are American vs European governments enemies (except Russia).

[Your Old Comrade]

Nope.

I am anti USA and anti Russia and anti Chinese.

US is biggest danger for Europe from these 3.

Same here. Fuck 'em all!

[Creoda]

Meanwhile, NATO model made EU militaries weak to the point that remove France not a single EU country possess any indigenous strategic military arm anymore. It is an alarming situation.

That is entirely on the European governments though. Nearly all of them have failed to meet the NATO military spending targets for decades, without sanction. The various European peoples should really be grateful for NATO and the US for saving them a lot of money while providing total security, the US taxpayer forced to foot the bill.

[robertb]

That is entirely on the European governments though. Nearly all of them have failed to meet the NATO military spending targets for decades, without sanction. The various European peoples should really be grateful for NATO and the US for saving them a lot of money while providing total security, the US taxpayer forced to foot the bill.

They're a bunch of whiners. We need to dump them and build an Anglo alliance.

[Your Old Comrade]

That is entirely on the European governments though. Nearly all of them have failed to meet the NATO military spending targets for decades, without sanction. The various European peoples should really be grateful for NATO and the US for saving them a lot of money while providing total security, the US taxpayer forced to foot the bill.

You mean: after the British, the Danes and Dutch bled themselves dry in Afghanistan. The Brits also in Iraq. All for American oil and for the poppy trade and for fucking Halliburton and all those private American contractors such as Blackwater - all with suspicious ties to a certain American president and vice president at the time, a certain George W. "Grandson of a War Profiteer" Bush and Dick "Corrupt Wanker" Cheney Do you know many Europeans died in those shitholes ? All in all. Around a 1000. For fucking nothing. Looking for a chap, that was actually treated for kidney problems in an AMERICAN MILITARY HOSPITAL IN DUBAI BACK IN 2001! If that doesn't make your blood BOIL, then what would?

[Smitty]

We're clearly seeing a coming together of the major power holders in the world today, be they European or American or even Chinese arguably. Those at the top levels of nearly every field of influence are finding that they can achieve much greater power by working together, and technology is facilitating this.