Bulgarians on G25

**~~protos~~** · 02-07-2024, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by axlredneck

Code:

Bulgarian_34,0.1224092,0.1351795,0.024192,-0.0006667,0.0228846,0.0003003,0.0050912,0.0042096,-0.0012949,0.0044975,-0.0012157,-0.0002779,0.0014468,0.0094707,-0.0122658,-0.0033523,0.0058299,-0.0002886,0.0036941,-0.0019152,-0.0054638,0.0001679,0.0035361,-0.0019152,-0.0002747
Slavic,0.136889045,0.124217737,0.080247872,0.077459165,0.041096385,0.031244748,0.009284727,0.01616411,-0.003516357,-0.03007394,-0.005916537,-0.009492153,0.020267842,0.02387931,-0.007974653,0.001510327,0.002723857,-0.001732062,0.001486543,0.003094505,-0.00428204,-0.003941758,0.00965012,-0.005442897,0.000921645
Thracian,0.1203325,0.1591906,0.0068434,-0.0474417,0.0300617,-0.0208531,0.0004523,-0.0017469,0.0107966,0.0388402,0.0026678,0.0079585,-0.0151111,0.0003636,-0.0191279,-0.0079527,0.008561,0.0015903,0.0069152,-0.0076855,-0.00604,0.0042617,-0.0016881,-0.0007715,-0.0033363
Anatolian,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
Turkic,0.0765143,-0.0884639,-0.0027654,0.0052757,-0.035904,0.0036874,0.0062929,0.0063074,-0.015612,-0.0115011,-0.0168884,-0.0036633,0.001817,-0.0022786,0.0076759,0.0062466,-0.0020139,-0.0002112,0.0013408,-0.0030013,-0.0082631,-0.0032426,-0.003177,-0.0007498,-0.0003193
Romani,0.0379412,-0.1020607,-0.1722183,0.1294702,-0.0729882,0.0672592,-0.0039167,0.0148072,0.0598913,0.037176,-0.0068473,0.0005495,-0.0015113,0.0033027,-0.0101338,-0.0099002,0.0084098,-0.0007178,-0.002933,0.0100048,0.001934,0.0008862,0.0011708,0.0068682,-0.0049095
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615
pre-Slavic,0.115788643,0.155447054,-0.013210334,-0.058939577,0.013143349,-0.022893294,0.002382382,-0.004765177,-0.000258792,0.030021232,0.002857424,0.006665043,-0.012513063,-0.000258648,-0.016561192,-0.007127521,0.008360983,0.000961495,0.006018814,-0.005774845,-0.006167014,0.003723334,-0.000888079,0.000539588,-0.001172929

Distance to: protos_scaled
0.02017645 Bulgarian_34
0.05912101 Thracian
0.07314260 pre-Slavic
0.09855294 Anatolian
0.12653990 Slavic
0.25056540 Turkic
0.38172379 Romani
0.44726577 MAR_EN

Target: protos_scaled
Distance: 0.9019% / 0.00901915
43.0 Thracian
28.0 Slavic
15.2 pre-Slavic
9.6 Bulgarian_34
2.6 Anatolian
1.6 Turkic

**axlredneck** · 02-09-2024, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by protos

Distance to: protos_scaled
0.02017645 Bulgarian_34
0.05912101 Thracian
0.07314260 pre-Slavic
0.09855294 Anatolian
0.12653990 Slavic
0.25056540 Turkic
0.38172379 Romani
0.44726577 MAR_EN

Target: protos_scaled
Distance: 0.9019% / 0.00901915
43.0 Thracian
28.0 Slavic
15.2 pre-Slavic
9.6 Bulgarian_34
2.6 Anatolian
1.6 Turkic

Are you a full Serb? Why is your Slavic so low?

**~~protos~~** · 02-09-2024, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by axlredneck

Are you a full Serb? Why is your Slavic so low?

Because I am high paleo-Balkan

**djipon** · 02-09-2024, 09:33 PM

Target: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7591% / 0.00759147
29.6 Slavic
24.8 Bulgarian_34
16.0 Anatolian
15.2 pre-Slavic
12.4 Thracian
1.0 Turkic
0.6 Romani
0.4 MAR_EN

Distance to: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
0.00858127 Bulgarian_34
0.07198915 Thracian
0.08080354 pre-Slavic
0.10175664 Anatolian
0.11808533 Slavic
0.24174583 Turkic
0.37221705 Romani
0.44566364 MAR_EN

**~~protos~~** · 02-09-2024, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by djipon

Target: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7591% / 0.00759147
29.6 Slavic
24.8 Bulgarian_34
16.0 Anatolian
15.2 pre-Slavic
12.4 Thracian
1.0 Turkic
0.6 Romani
0.4 MAR_EN

Distance to: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
0.00858127 Bulgarian_34
0.07198915 Thracian
0.08080354 pre-Slavic
0.10175664 Anatolian
0.11808533 Slavic
0.24174583 Turkic
0.37221705 Romani
0.44566364 MAR_EN

Try removing "pre-Slavic" and "Bulgarian_34", to see what you get. In your case a lot of Slavic gets hidden under "Bulgarian_34" category, but also some Anatolian.

**axlredneck** · 02-10-2024, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by djipon

Target: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.7591% / 0.00759147
29.6 Slavic
24.8 Bulgarian_34
16.0 Anatolian
15.2 pre-Slavic
12.4 Thracian
1.0 Turkic
0.6 Romani
0.4 MAR_EN

Distance to: djipon_simulated_g25_scaled
0.00858127 Bulgarian_34
0.07198915 Thracian
0.08080354 pre-Slavic
0.10175664 Anatolian
0.11808533 Slavic
0.24174583 Turkic
0.37221705 Romani
0.44566364 MAR_EN

I'd recommend you buy real coordinates from Davidski or IllustrativeDNA.

**djipon** · 02-10-2024, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by axlredneck

I'd recommend you buy real coordinates from Davidski or IllustrativeDNA.

Already done that(illustrativedna), gonna post all my results tomorrow

**djipon** · 02-11-2024, 07:16 AM

Results with my real G25 coordinates:

Distance to: djipon_scaled
0.02228781 Bulgarian_34
0.08014370 Thracian
0.08911308 pre-Slavic
0.10930588 Anatolian
0.11386974 Slavic
0.24287280 Turkic
0.37362785 Romani
0.45232320 MAR_EN

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.1869% / 0.02186889
34.4 Slavic
23.2 Anatolian
21.6 Bulgarian_34
15.8 Thracian
3.6 pre-Slavic
1.2 Turkic
0.2 Romani

**axlredneck** · 02-11-2024, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by djipon

Results with my real G25 coordinates:

Distance to: djipon_scaled
0.02228781 Bulgarian_34
0.08014370 Thracian
0.08911308 pre-Slavic
0.10930588 Anatolian
0.11386974 Slavic
0.24287280 Turkic
0.37362785 Romani
0.45232320 MAR_EN

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.1869% / 0.02186889
34.4 Slavic
23.2 Anatolian
21.6 Bulgarian_34
15.8 Thracian
3.6 pre-Slavic
1.2 Turkic
0.2 Romani

Use only these coordinates in the source window.

Code:

Slavic,0.136889045,0.124217737,0.080247872,0.077459165,0.041096385,0.031244748,0.009284727,0.01616411,-0.003516357,-0.03007394,-0.005916537,-0.009492153,0.020267842,0.02387931,-0.007974653,0.001510327,0.002723857,-0.001732062,0.001486543,0.003094505,-0.00428204,-0.003941758,0.00965012,-0.005442897,0.000921645
Thracian,0.1203325,0.1591906,0.0068434,-0.0474417,0.0300617,-0.0208531,0.0004523,-0.0017469,0.0107966,0.0388402,0.0026678,0.0079585,-0.0151111,0.0003636,-0.0191279,-0.0079527,0.008561,0.0015903,0.0069152,-0.0076855,-0.00604,0.0042617,-0.0016881,-0.0007715,-0.0033363
Anatolian,0.1109775,0.1514833,-0.0344437,-0.0711138,-0.0047702,-0.0250535,0.004426,-0.007961,-0.0119645,0.0206835,0.0030582,0.0052955,-0.0097622,-0.0009175,-0.0138435,-0.0062538,0.0081492,0.0002957,0.0050697,-0.0037518,-0.0063015,0.0031533,-4.1e-05,0.0019278,0.0011177
Turkic,0.0765143,-0.0884639,-0.0027654,0.0052757,-0.035904,0.0036874,0.0062929,0.0063074,-0.015612,-0.0115011,-0.0168884,-0.0036633,0.001817,-0.0022786,0.0076759,0.0062466,-0.0020139,-0.0002112,0.0013408,-0.0030013,-0.0082631,-0.0032426,-0.003177,-0.0007498,-0.0003193
Romani,0.0379412,-0.1020607,-0.1722183,0.1294702,-0.0729882,0.0672592,-0.0039167,0.0148072,0.0598913,0.037176,-0.0068473,0.0005495,-0.0015113,0.0033027,-0.0101338,-0.0099002,0.0084098,-0.0007178,-0.002933,0.0100048,0.001934,0.0008862,0.0011708,0.0068682,-0.0049095
MAR_EN,-0.1735805,0.0919055,-0.0258325,-0.083657,0.0283125,-0.0596825,-0.079316,0.021461,0.1500185,0.0043735,0.0222475,-0.0264515,0.075148,-0.0461725,0.069353,-0.03381,0.0171455,-0.05549,-0.1487635,0.0340785,-0.038245,-0.118212,0.0826995,-0.009941,0.021615

Also, can you share your coordinates? (PM them)

**~~DamCz~~** · 02-11-2024, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by axlredneck

So they got 20% E1b ? How much is that E-V13 and from Thracians or pre-Slavic people ? Albanians have way more for example ..also what clades are those r1b ?