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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Whether the regime in Russia is free and democratic or not is non relevant since the moment that Putin enjoys a big popularity among Russians, who are very happy with his leadership.
    How do you know how many Russians are happy? Only the "happy" Russians are allowed to speak. The unhappy ones go straight to Gulag if they open their mouth.

    I don't need to see T. Carlson saying this regime is an example to follow.

    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    In a world of sovereign countries, how "democratic" or not are the different national regimes should not be anybody's business, as long as each country populace is happy with what they have, and there is not some genocide or cataclysm going on.
    Russia is dead set on installing a puppet regime in Kyiv. Russia infringes on Ukraine's sovereignty, but asks sovereignty for itself. How about no.

    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Countless times US has supported very undemocratic and unpopular regimes around the world, as long as they go along with them and their world domination agenda, which tells to any person with a working brain that they actually don't give a fuck about "freedom and democracy" as they preach to the manipulable masses.
    The US did a lot of bad things around the world, but more good than bad. The ratio is reversed for Russia.

    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Yet the establishment don't like him, and managed to kick him out of FOX News, because they don't like how he put on evidence the criminal and parasite western elites and their monopolies.
    Once a lackey, always a lackey. Carlson just found another old man's ass to kiss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dviz View Post
    Tucker Carlson is the typical Western useful idiot. There's a long list of these fools, with Obama at the top.

    We spend billions to defeat Putin's regime, and T. Carlson decides to campaign for Putin (who has "elections" in a month).

    Thank you very much, imbecile.
    And why did we spend billions? That money should be used for the benefit of the US not to other nations in a proxy war that doesn't even benefit the American people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    And why did we spend billions? That money should be used for the benefit of the US not to other nations in a proxy war that doesn't even benefit the American people.
    If we don't spend on defense, we get free money. Awesome.

    The reality is, if we don't spent today, we'll have to spend twice as much tomorrow, and usually with a higher cost in lives.

    Imagine Eastern Europe falls under Russia once again. What do you think will happen? The defense costs will rise from 20% of the budget, where it is today, to 50% of the budget, where it was during the Cold War. How will that work for the American people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dviz View Post
    If we don't spend on defense, we get free money. Awesome.

    The reality is, if we don't spent today, we'll have to spend twice as much tomorrow, and usually with a higher cost in lives.

    Imagine Eastern Europe falls under Russia once again. What do you think will happen? The defense costs will rise from 20% of the budget, where it is today, to 50% of the budget, where it was during the Cold War. How will that work for the American people?
    Russia couldn't conquer Eastern Europe even if they wanted to so and if they did I wouldn't care because it's not our problem. It doesn't affect us.

    This is Rusdia 2023. It's not the Soviet Union (who we funded or they would have collapsed) 1946. The objects are very different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Russia couldn't conquer Eastern Europe even if they wanted to so and if they did I wouldn't care because it's not our problem. It doesn't affect us.

    This is Rusdia 2023. It's the Soviet Union (who we funded or they would have collapsed) 1946. The objects are very different.
    Again, I can't understand people who enjoy mocking Russia for "not being able to conquer Ukraine" at the same time busy with fearmongering with Russian tanks in Poland, Baltic states, Hungary, NATO member states. I think such people are retards any communication with whom is a waste of time.

    They will explain you with pleasure why Russia will never win in Ukraine, but they will never explain you how Russia will invade the NATO countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Again, I can't understand people who enjoy mocking Russia for "not being able to conquer Ukraine" at the same time busy with fearmongering with Russian tanks in Poland, Baltic states, Hungary, NATO member states. I think such people are retards any communication with whom is a waste of time.

    They will explain you with pleasure why Russia will never win in Ukraine, but they will never explain you how Russia will invade the NATO countries.
    I think this war would have been pretty darn short without Western involvement, at any rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Popularity of Orban is a complex topic, i have talked about the reasons many times, but he is really very popular. Neither the opposition coalition neither the EU observers didn't question the election results and its legitimation. Orbán is not a dictator, just a mafia boss.
    Someone of the caliber of Orban would be unthinkable here in Austria. There is no charismatic politician here who would even come close to reaching 50% of the electorate. What actually happened to the Jobbik people? 2014/15 was the time when I was more interested in Hungarian domestic politics mainly because of the influx of Muslims during that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Russia couldn't conquer Eastern Europe even if they wanted to so
    Can you explain why? You sound like a true connoisseur in all things Eastern European.

    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    and if they did I wouldn't care because it's not our problem. It doesn't affect us.

    This is Rusdia 2023. It's the Soviet Union (who we funded or they would have collapsed) 1946. The objects are very different.
    If Russia takes Eastern Europe once again it will be a complete catastrophe for the entire West.

    This Russia won't be a replay of the communist regime teetering on the edge of bankruptcy every year. It will be a militaristic uniparty rule with a capitalist economy, much like China.

    Consider that, although the West won economically the Cold War, it would have likely lost a hot conflict. The Soviets and their allies had about a 5 to 1 numerical advantage in equipment and an endless supply of conscripts.

    Now, add China to this mix. The West is royally fucked if it lets a block of China + Russia + Eastern Europe form. This block would comprise most of manufacturing capacity in the world. Not even a 50% defense budget would be sufficient to face a threat of this size. This idea that the conflict in Ukraine does not concern the Americans is 100% autistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    I think this war would have been pretty darn short without Western involvement, at any rate.
    It would have been even shorter without Russian involvement. In fact, without them it would never have happened.

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    Other than that, this interview will always be interesting to watch.

    I will try to see it without prejudices, although it is difficult, because watching Carlson's video, it is clear what we are going to see.

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