Expulsion of the Albanians, 1877–1878

[DamCz]

Stole Albanian land , these immigrant invading Chicken Serbo-Chetniks , now they want more .

The expulsion of the Albanians, 1877–1878 refers to events of forced migration of Albanian populations from areas that became incorporated into the Principality of Serbia and Principality of Montenegro in 1878 after their initial expulsion from 1830–1876. These wars, alongside the larger Russo-Ottoman War (1877–78) ended in defeat and substantial territorial losses for the Ottoman Empire which was formalised at the Congress of Berlin. This expulsion was part of the wider persecution of Muslims in the Balkans during the geopolitical and territorial decline of the Ottoman Empire.[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expuls...7%E2%80%931878

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Toponyms such as Arbanaška River, Arbanashko Hill, Arbanashka Mountain, Arnautski Potok, Arbanasce, Arbanashka Petrila, Arbanashka Brenica, Arbanas, Gjinofc Kulla, Marash, Gjinofc, Gjaka/Đjake, Kastrat, Arbanaška etc. shows an Albanian presence in the Toplica and Southern Morava regions (located north-east of contemporary Kosovo) and in the Preševo Valley since the late Middle Ages.[22][23][24][25] Albanians in the region were Orthodox Christians, were in contact with Slavic populations and as such many also bore Orthodox Slavic names such as in the village Arbanas, the name of the inhabitants were: Stojan, Dajin, Dane Stojan, Mati Marko, Andrija Marko, Dimsha Marko, Luka Gjurko, Nikolla Luka, Pjetri Dimja, Stojan Pjetri, Gjura Marko, Lazar Stepa, Gjura Pejash etc.[26]

American historian Justin McCarthy regarding the Muslim population of the Sanjak of Niş gives the figure of 131,000 Muslims in 1876, with only 12,000 remaining in 1882.[32][33][34] Whereas historian Noel Malcolm gives the figure for the Albanian population of the area as numbering around 110,000.[16] Albanian historians such as the late Sabit Uka[15] postulate that 110,000 is a conservative estimate based on Austro-Hungarian statistics and gives a higher figure of 200,000 for the total Albanian population of the area.[35] Other Albanian researchers like Emin Pllana, Skënder Rizaj and Turkish historian Bilal Şimşir place the number of Albanian refugees from the region as numbering between 60–70,000 in the vilayet of Kosovo and 60,000 Muslim or Albanian refugees in Macedonia.[36][37][38][39][16]

Claim Albanians settled in this territory with Ottomans but actually Albanians lived there before these people even arrived there , not
only is this shown by the fact the ancient town name there according to linguists developed from Albanian Naissos -> Nish but also
you'll find good chunk of Albanian toponyms around that area that precedes the Ottoman conquest like Arbanashka river, Arbanashka mountain, Arbanasce, Gjaka, Kastrat, Berishane, Arbanashko hill, Arnautski Potok, Shatra, Lusha, Arbanashka, Bernic Arbanas, Petrili Arbanas etc etc and many more. And this is just counting the ones that still exist.

[hazmatnik]

Stole Albanian land , these immigrant invading Chicken Serbo-Chetniks , now they want more .







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expuls...7%E2%80%931878

My family just came back 1878. from where you kicked them out in XVIII century... Meanwhile my great grandma family was kicked out from Gnjilane, with many members killed, same time Albanians where kicked out from Serbia in 1878. And your haplogroup argument cant work on me, main point was that as Albanians converted to Islam they became more and more aggressive toward Christians.

[DamCz]

Most of these Balkan conflicts are a good example of why strict border control is what every country needs.





Proto-Albanian according to linguists:

[hazmatnik]

If you find any relation between my paternal and maternal Y haplogroups and Slavs you deserve Nobel prize

Think why i have more than 1000 Albanian autosomal matches, mostly from Kosovo. You sold yourself for some power and tax relieve and then molested Christians

[DamCz]

These Chetniks and their aggressive propaganda where they supposedly claim there were almost no Albanians in this territory
until supposedly 1690 , and using few tribes that were expelled into the territory after they revolted against the Ottomans into
areas that had already been Albanian. They have vandalized wikipedia with their propaganda. Nobody is allowed to say anything
against their invented fairytales.

In 1660 Çelebi went to Kosovo and referred to the central part of the region as Arnavud (آرناوود) and noted that in Vushtrri its inhabitants were speakers of Albanian or Turkish and few spoke Bosnian.[18] The highlands around the Tetovo, Peja and Prizren areas Çelebi considered as being the "mountains of Arnavudluk".[18] Çelebi referred to the "mountains of Peja" as being in Arnavudluk (آرناوودلق) and considered the Ibar river that converged in Mitrovica as forming Kosovo's border with Bosnia.[18] He viewed the "Kılab" or Llapi river as having its source in Arnavudluk (Albania) and by extension the Sitnica as being part of that river.[18] Çelebi also included the central mountains of Kosovo within Arnavudluk.[18]

The Llapi region in North-East Kosovo was also Albanian prior to these events:

In 1487, Albanian toponyms such as Arbanas were mentioned in the Nahija of Llapi.

Ottoman writer Evliya Celebi mentioned the Llapi river as having "its source in Albania" and joining other rivers before flowing into the Danube, during one of his travels to Kosovo in the 1660s.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llap_(region)

Prishtina, Prizren, Peja, Vushtrri all Albanian too. Janjeva had significant Albanian population too. Novo Brdo too. Trepca too.
The towns in Kosovo were mainly Albanian in fact yet they claim these were Serbian towns


And they mainly quote clowns like Jagodic, Batakovic etc ''significant clusters existed prior to habsburg wars in west and central ''
No, not exactly ''significant clusters''

It is interesting how they don't mention all the Serbs that settled this territory in the 18th century that came from Montenegro, Serbia etc. Apparently
Serbs only went out according to these peoples fairytales They claim all the refugees that settled in Hungary came
from Kosovo which in fact they didn't. Most families came from other areas such as Belgrade. Some Slavs in East / North-Eastern Kosovo fled to Belgrade
and then Hungary , that's about it.


The people that revolted were specifically mentioned as Albanians:

Kosovo Albanian Roman Catholic Bishop and philosopher Pjetër Bogdani returned to the Balkans in March 1686 and spent the next years promoting resistance to the armies of the Ottoman Empire, in particular in his native Kosovo. He and his vicar Toma Raspasani played a leading role in the pro-Austrian movement in Kosovo during the Great Turkish War.[13] He contributed a force of 6,000 Albanian soldiers to the Austrian army which had arrived in Pristina and accompanied it to capture Prizren. There, however, he and much of his army were met by another equally formidable adversary, the plague. Bogdani returned to Pristina but succumbed to the disease there in 6 December 1689.[14] His nephew, Gjergj Bogdani, reported in 1698 that his uncle's remains were later exhumed by Turkish and Tatar soldiers and fed to the dogs in the middle of the square in Pristina.

Among the papers of Ludwig von Baden in Karlsruhe, there is a copy of an intercepted letter, in French, written by a secretary of the English embassy in Constantinople on 19 January 1690. It reported that the "Germans" in Kosovo had made contact with 20,000 Albanians who had turned their weapons against the Turks.[15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Turkish_War

Austrian military archives from the years of 1689-90 mention "5,000 Muslim Albanians in Prishtina who had risen against the Turks".[31][32] U

There is nothin that supports these peoples version of history, it's a bunch of propaganda from dubious sources like Batakovic, Jagodic or people
that quoted them. My advice don't read too much into wikipedia or their so called ''ethnic breakdown of the region''



In Dardania town names such as Nish, Shkupi , Lipjan, Shtip etc have developed from Albanian and weren't taken from these
people. Albanians are mentioned in these towns since the medieval period.

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For example the Gashi tribe of Northern Albania / Highlands of Gjakova revolted against the Ottomans and were expelled
into Kosovo, that same area where they were expelled had already been Albanian prior to these wars:

During the Austro-Turkish War of 1683-1699, the Gashi and the other Catholic tribes of the area supported the Austrians, and were therefore punished by the Ottomans after the defeat of the Austrians.[18] In the years 1690-1693, the village of Gash was burned down by the Pasha of Peja and its population was expelled to the Llap region in Kosovo.[19] Nonetheless, some families either returned to their original territories or escaped persecution, as in 1693-1697, the Gash villages of Luzhë and Botushë appear in documents.[20] In 1716, the Gashi tribe, along with the Kelmendi, Pult, Shala and Mirdita tribal regions, were targeted by a punitive operation carried out by Tahir Pasha of Dukagjin.

Llapi river in North-East Kosovo where they were expelled according to year 1660 sources prior to events above:

In 1487, Albanian toponyms such as Arbanas were mentioned in the Nahija of Llapi.

Ottoman writer Evliya Celebi mentioned the Llapi river as having "its source in Albania" and joining other rivers before flowing into the Danube, during one of his travels to Kosovo in the 1660s.[5]

This is what they use as ''evidence '' to claim Albanians were settled by Ottomans


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gashi_(tribe)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llapi_River

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This is actually how this territory acquired an Albanian majority, sometime in the 19th century , nothing to do with
Albanians constantly moving in, but this is what they claim, that Albanians moved in , encouraged as Muslims by Ottomans when in fact most of Northern Albania was Catholic, and Serbs supposedly moved out, when many of them actually moved in just like Albanians, many of these Serb families cam from Montenegro, in fact most Kosovo Serbs are Montenigrin settlers not only this but they claim there was a massive depoulation
in 1690 which supposedly emptied it's Serb population and ''replaced by Albanians'' when in fact the territory
was Albanian before that, such as the Turkish traveller Evliya Celebi included most of Western and Central Kosovo
and the Llapi region in north-east kosovo within Albania, see my thread here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...a-in-the-1660s , there are much more parts, most of the towns in Kosovo were Albanian too prior
to these events as shown by registers and different travellers , the towns were mainly Muslim Albanians yet they claim these
were Serbian towns until 1690.

In fact most of the people in Kosovo that supported the Austrians in Kosovo in 1690 were Albanians such as the 20,000
but in their version of history they changed them into Serbs and claim these were Serbs despite it's not even what
the original texts say.


And they have vandalized entire wikipedia with this nonsense , nobody is allowed to add anything or question anything, nothing.
There is not a single shred of evidence of any so called ''Great Migration 1690'' , it's probably some of the most fake history
I have ever seen in my life. I have never in my life seen such fake history. It makes me so angry and makes my blood boil.

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From a historian that sudied this topic:

This essay examines both the historical facts concerning the migration of Serbs from Kosovo in 1690, and the claims made about that migration by subsequent historians—claims which, at their most extreme, suggested that hundreds of thousands of Serbs departed, with huge effects on the ethnic composition of the region. This essay demonstrates that there was no large-scale organized exodus of Serbs under the Serbian Orthodox Patriarch, Arsenije Crnojević: his departure from Kosovo in early 1690 was extremely hasty, and he had not, in any case, been leading organized resistance to the Ottomans. A large number of Serbs did move with the Patriarch to Hungarian territory later in that year; he himself gave their numbers as 30,000 or 40,000. But they had gathered, from many areas, in the Belgrade region, and only a small proportion were from Kosovo itself. One unsupported claim was made many years later, by a Serbian monk, that the Patriarch had brought 37,000 families to Hungary; and in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries many Serb writers interpreted that figure maximally, while also assuming that all those people had come from Kosovo. This essay analyses the ideological influences (operating primarily on Serbs within the Habsburg territories in the nineteenth century) that helped to shape that interpretation; it also criticizes excessive claims made by modern Albanian and Turkish historians.

https://academic.oup.com/book/37426/...xt&login=false

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We also got registers from 16th century that shows it was inhabited by Albanians and Islamised people + description of by travellers from 17th century etc. Kosova has every right to be a country and these people are illegal occupants!!!!