Why do Slavs in the Balkans claim they are the original inhabitants ?

[Scarface F]

I believe so too. This White this/White that sounds like someone's creation in ,17th-18th century.

Ofcourse that it isn't. There are tons of medieval sources and maps. About Croats ofcourse, about Serbs much less.

Will post them later.

Polak academia is known for their denial of this. Luckily their neighbours are more professional so we have masses of sources.

[protos]

Ofcourse that it isn't. There are tons of medieval sources and maps. About Croats ofcourse, about Serbs much less.

Will post them later.

Polak academia is known for their denial of this. Luckily their neighbours are more professional so we have masses of sources.

I doubt that any territory was called "white [put the name]". Most of the earliest sources were giving names of ancestral lands of Slavic tribes that moved to Balkans after an older tribes (Germanic/Celtic/Scythian) that lived in eastern/central Europe and was known to Roman historians from before.

A lot of late medieval and post-medieval works are fairy tales.

So cass is right.

[Scarface F]

I doubt that any territory was called "white [put the name]". Most of the earliest sources were giving names of ancestral lands of Slavic tribes that moved to Balkans after an older tribes (Germanic/Celtic/Scythian) that lived in eastern/central Europe and was known to Roman historians from before.

A lot of late medieval and post-medieval works are fairy tales.

So cass is right.

Nope. White means cardinal direction in old Slavic and steppe tradition. It was called white only in DAI, but tribes and people living there and recorded as Croats are not disputed, it is established fact, especially in Polak lands (which than included west Ukraine).

He is not right but speaking nonsese just like you because Polaks feel threatened by presence of non Polak tribes in their little medieval land.

By the way, you are genetically not even much Slavic so I understand your lack of interest and knowledge about where do Balkan Slavs come from.

[protos]

Nope. White means cardinal direction in old Slavic and steppe tradition. It was called white only in DAI, but tribes and people living there and recorded as Croats are not disputed, it is established fact, especially in Polak lands (which than included west Ukraine).

Didn't DAI mentioned ancestral lands of Serbs as Boika, referring to Celtic Boii tribe (current Bohemia)?

He is not right but speaking nonsese just like you because Polaks feel threatened by presence of non Polak tribes in their little medieval land.

Why do you think Poles are threatened by presence of non-Polish Slavic tribes in Poland thousands of years ago?

By the way, you are genetically not even much Slavic so I understand your lack of interest and knowledge about where do Balkan Slavs come from.

Yes, you're correct. I'm anywhere between 0-30% Slavic according to DNA tests & calculators, but I read a few texts here and there about early Slavs.

[Varda]

Historically Croatians the most ashamed of their Slavic roots of all Slavic speakers. Croatian elite in 19th century claimed Illyrian origin, in WW2 and around it was popular theory of Gothic origin, in Yugo communism period and some period late it was popular Iranian origin of Croatians, some Croatian historians claimed Avar origin of Croatians. Today Slavic origin is more popular than ever among Croatians.

[Dušan]

Historically Croatians the most ashamed of their Slavic roots of all Slavic speakers. Croatian elite in 19th century claimed Illyrian origin, in WW2 and around it was popular theory of Gothic origin, in Yugo communism period and some period late it was popular Iranian origin of Croatians, some Croatian historians claimed Avar origin of Croatians. Today Slavic origin is more popular than ever among Croatians.

"The spirit of Byzantism and Slavophilism is something terrible."

[Varda]

Historically Croatians the most ashamed of their Slavic roots of all Slavic speakers. Croatian elite in 19th century claimed Illyrian origin, in WW2 and around it was popular theory of Gothic origin, in Yugo communism period and some period late it was popular Iranian origin of Croatians, some Croatian historians claimed Avar origin of Croatians. Today Slavic origin is more popular than ever among Croatians.

[protos]

Was this for real? Sounds comical

[Varda]

Was this for real? Sounds comical

Yes. Croatians had and still have iranologists who wrote books about Iranian origin of Croatians and Croatian language.

https://hr.metapedia.org/wiki/Indoiranski_Prahrvati

https://hr.metapedia.org/wiki/Perzijski_i_starohrvatski

Owner of that site claim that Yugoslavian secreet police (UDBA) killed his father because he discovered Iranian origin of Croatians. For 'murlaška besida' (Morlach speech) from Livno area he claim it was speech of semi romanized Croatians who settled to East Adriatic and its hinterland in 200-300 AD from Iran. Murlaška besida is just Serbo-Caroatian with a lot of borrowed Italian/Venetian words, because speakers settled to Livno area from Dalmatia where was significant Venetian influence. My ancestors used many Latin words recorded in so called murlaška besida.

[Varda]

"The spirit of Byzantism and Slavophilism is something terrible."

Father of Croatian nation Ante Starčević often used name Slavosrbi (Slavo-Serbs) for Serbs and considered them inferior in comparison with non-Slavic Croatians. He just is one of many members of slavophobic Croatian elite through history.