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    Default December, 1943: Deportation of the Kalmyk People


    "Kalmyks in the late 19th century. Picture taken in the Salsky Raion of the Don Host Oblast." The photo and its caption were both taken from the Wiki article about the Kalmyks.

    Estimates of the death toll from the deportation vary; a 2012 news story about the deportation in The Moscow Times says that "Several thousand Kalmyks died on the horrifying journey in freezing cattle cars, and about one-fifth died of hunger, cold and disease during the first five years of forced exile."


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    Kalmyks are a Mongol-speaking and predominantly Buddhist ethnic group -- one of several that were deported en masse in the 1940s by Stalin's Soviet government, which accused them of collaborating with Nazi Germany.

    On December 28-29, 1943, almost 100,000 Kalmyks were loaded into cattle cars headed for Siberia.

    According to unofficial estimates, at least one-third of those who were forced onto the trains died during the journey.

    Those who survived were allowed to return to Kalmykia in 1956.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I don't get you Teutone. Sometimes you seem to be an extreme Western apologist and chauvinist, while other times you sound almost like Noam Chomsky or
    even Franz Fanon. The US has been a bad Empire that has done rather bad things, but the USSR was by orders of magnitude worse as a society and an imperial power. Like most things in life, it is not a case of choosing between good and bad, but between better and worse, even if the 'better' isn't that brilliant either.
    Where am I chauvinistic over the modern west?

    Its for me the worst civilization in human history.

    For domestic changes it is inevitable and important that the west is failing geopolitically on every front, any right winger not realizing this in 2024 is beyond lost.

    The German real right is completely on line when it comes to geopolitical stances with the real left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Where am I chauvinistic over the modern west?
    Not so much over the modern West, but about its not-too-distant imperial past.

    Its for me the worst civilization in human history.
    A bit extreme, isn't it?

    For domestic changes it is inevitable and important that the west is failing geopolitically on every front, any right winger not realizing this in 2024 is beyond lost.

    The German real right is completely on line when it comes to geopolitical stances with the real left.
    But what will come in its place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    But what will come in its place?
    Age of barbarians, a mad max world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Not so much over the modern West, but about its not-too-distant imperial past.
    I told you few days ago that the colonial empire resulted in no profits and the tragedy of civic nationalism.

    General imperialism based on the european continent created a competition based mindset that in my opinion enabled the ability of Europeans to conquer the entire planet, that per se shouldn't be a achievement a Brit or Frenchman should feel sorry about, no.

    I also don't think an modern American should feel sorry about the military strength of his nation, but a smart american maybe would wonder how such a huge defense budget can be justified when america is deteriorating domestically on many fronts.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    A bit extreme, isn't it?
    Well yea, other Civilizations in the past sacrificed their children to gods, that wasnt much better.

    What we do is encourage and allow them to have chemical castrations and the motivation behind that isnt even religious, which makes it arguably worse.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    But what will come in its place?
    Who knows, I am not optimistic about positive change in the west.

    The EU and USA turn to technocracies run by Ayn Rand disciples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    I told you few days ago that the colonial empire resulted in no profits and the tragedy of civic nationalism.

    General imperialism based on the european continent created a competition based mindset that in my opinion enabled the ability of Europeans to conquer the entire planet, that per se shouldn't be a achievement a Brit or Frenchman should feel sorry about, no.

    I also don't think an modern American should feel sorry about the military strength of his nation, but a smart american maybe would wonder how such a huge defense budget can be justified when america is deteriorating domestically on many fronts.
    'Progress' has certainly come at a cost, particularly for the Global South but for much of the West's own working-class and peasantry too.

    Well yea, other Civilizations in the past sacrificed their children to gods, that wasnt much better.

    What we do is encourage and allow them to have chemical castrations and the motivation behind that isnt even religious, which makes it arguably worse.
    LOL.

    Who knows, I am not optimistic about positive change in the west.

    The EU and USA turn to technocracies run by Ayn Rand disciples.
    Are you saying you want the scenario in bold to occur or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Age of barbarians
    I think youre already prepared. (:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post



    Are you saying you want the scenario in bold to occur or not?
    Why would I want that? But it seems to develop to that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Why would I want that? But it seems to develop to that point.
    I would like something like Singapore. (The reality, not the fantasy version some on the Right have). It combines low taxes and regulations with widespread State ownership and investments - particularly through the State investment bank called Temasek, so most of the government's revenue comes from direct ownership rather than taxation, it maintains high-quality infrastructure and services while enabling residents/citizens to enjoy the fruits of their labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I would like something like Singapore. (The reality, not the fantasy version some on the Right have).
    Really? You know that Singapore executes drug traffickers, right? (like most of Southeast Asia)

    You know that even the possession of small amounts of cannabis, let alone hard drugs, is a capital offence? Also murder.

    You know that the typical time from arrest to trial to execution is about 1 or 2 months?

    You know that littering, vandalism, and other minor offences are punished with caning, a vicious beating with a bamboo cane?

    Now do you understand why Singapore is so safe and clean and orderly, with no drug problem or widespread mental illness?

    No sissy lefty Britbong liberal could ever tolerate a paradise like Singapore. Please stay in Londonistan.

    And you know that mandatory military service in Singapore is 2 years, right?

    Singapore has very conservative, nationalist values, though the population is naturally multicultural, heterogenous.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    It combines low taxes and regulations
    Yes, much lower taxes and regulations than Margaret Thatcher's wildest dreams, thank you very much,

    everything that leftists oppose, along with balanced budgets required by law, another idea hated by leftists.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    with widespread State ownership and investments
    Just like pre-1994 South Africa and Rhodesia, thank you very much.

    Singapore is even better, because 80% of land and 90% of real-estate is state-owned,
    which prevents the formation of slums, shantytowns, and Sowetos.
    Every sector of the city is self-contained and closely monitored, every sector is an original 10-minute-city.
    And motorways are state-owned but financed with tolls.

    And the remaining 10-20% is EXPENSIVE and a very lucrative commodity for international investors.
    While excessive speculation is attenuated with a 25% stamp tax, which is only fair,
    and very reasonable to finance such a competent state.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    particularly through the State investment bank called Temasek, so most of the government's revenue comes from direct ownership rather than taxation, it maintains high-quality infrastructure and services while enabling residents/citizens to enjoy the fruits of their labour.
    This is a nationalist position that prevents the takeover of foreign plutocrats, Buffett, Gates, Soros, Blackrock, etc.

    And you are aware that balanced budgets are required by law for the past 40 years?

    No deficit spending for dumb lefty programs and bureaucracy!

    And no mass migration or benefits for migrants! The state actually cares for its OWN people first.

    Everything must be paid for, with low taxes might I add,
    which shows just how wasteful and dysfunctional Western governments are in the first place!

    All debt is from investments, not deficit spending. The state IS a local corporation.

    Are you OK with this? I doubt it.
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