Is a non-Black marrying a Black person something that requires a high amount of rebelliousness?

[Tooting Carmen]

In the Western Hemisphere - especially very multiracial nations like the US and Brazil - White-Black marriages still often attract more stigma and criticism than other types of mixed marriages. Even the most hardcore WN at the very least wouldn't usually object quite as much to his/her child marrying an East Asian person compared to a Black person. (Assuming he hasn't married a Thai or Filipina himself. )

For that matter, in much of the Global South where neither White nor Black people are native or the dominant ethnic group - Japan, China, India, Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Mexico etc. - even the most conservative/tribalistic/nationalistic parents at the very least would usually find their child marrying a White person less objectionable than a Black person, even leaving aside those who'd outright praise it.

Therefore, does a non-Black person marrying a Black person need much more courage and rebelliousness than usual in much of the world?

[rajputprincess]

It is classism. Black people usually are poorer. More ghetto and uneducated. That is just average. Plenty of high class black people. It won't have happened if black were in upper class

Why do you think that marrying arab carry less stigma in Latin America. While huge stigma in Europe?

Because in Latin America arab are over represented among in higher class. While they are ghetto refugees in Europe

Everything you see is classism and can be connected to it

[rajputprincess]

In global South.

White immigrant is rich basically expat while black immigrant is not and African countries are associated with being poor while European countries rich

[Tooting Carmen]

It is classism. Black people usually are poorer. More ghetto and uneducated. That is just average. Plenty of high class black people. It won't have happened if black were in upper class

Why do you think that marrying arab carry less stigma in Latin America. While huge stigma in Europe?

Because in Latin America arab are over represented among in higher class. While they are ghetto refugees in Europe

Everything you see is classism and can be connected to it

I agree with you up to a point. However, I think you'd find more than a few people who'd still feel iffy about mixing even with wealthy and/or well-educated Black people. I'm sure in India, some parents would even prefer a (relatively) poor White partner for their child - and maybe a poorer Arab or Chinese too - over a wealthy Black partner.

[rajputprincess]

Honestly most don't want their kids to date someone who is not from their community

But they would prefer richer person.

I have seen in my family. Some of my aunt are extremely light skin southern European level.Their parents ended up fixing their marriage with men with African level skin color

Because they were very rich. Lol parents want rich son in law really


That's what matter. Parents don't care about skin color if you are rich

So nope they would take rich black son in law

[rajputprincess]

Also white and East Asian have same status. Because both are rich expat and their countries are rich

It is just classism. Really

[rajputprincess]

@tooting I personally believe in Europe stigma against mena and black is same

Because both ghetto poor and uneducated

[Hektor12]

It is classism.

Not at all. Billions of colonists married african slave women in new world. Class difference is basically nothing compared to phonetypical difference, which results in not-relatable looking grandchildren. With Asians children looks much more relatable due to fair skin.

[Tooting Carmen]

In global South.

White immigrant is rich basically expat while black immigrant is not and African countries are associated with being poor while European countries rich

Largely true, although you can find working-class White immigrants especially from Eastern European countries like Romania and Russia in some East Asian and Gulf Arab countries. (Japan in fact used to have a long-running dispute with the EU for imposing visa restrictions on Romanians due to this). And many European immigrants to Latin America (at least initially) were poor themselves. Furthermore, even poor East Asians in Western countries still are generally better-regarded than most Blacks.

[Tooting Carmen]

Also white and East Asian have same status. Because both are rich expat and their countries are rich

It is just classism. Really

Only Japan, South Korea and some city-states like Hong Kong and Singapore are as rich (or even richer) than Europe and North America. The rest not really.