Are Cro Magnon populations in Britain native or the result of recent migrations?

[Oliver109]

In the UK there are large borreby and Brunn populations, in eastern England the Anglo Saxon type is present, while Saxon migrations had an impact I do believe that these phenotypes were present in a lot of Britain before the Saxon invasions.

[Gallop]

I don't think so, I get much smaller and more gracile people before certain migrations you mention, in fact you can still see them.

[Oliver109]

I don't think so, I get much smaller and more gracile people before certain migrations you mention, in fact you can still see them.

I see meds and alpine types you are right but you have to remember that cro Magnons are a major part of British society, some of the strongest biggest men and women come from Britain.

[Gallop]

I see meds and alpine types you are right but you have to remember that cro Magnons are a major part of British society, some of the strongest biggest men and women come from Britain.

I have no news about that, I see that different countries all over the world have strong men and women, not especially Britain.

[Septentrion]

In the UK there are large borreby and Brunn populations, in eastern England the Anglo Saxon type is present, while Saxon migrations had an impact I do believe that these phenotypes were present in a lot of Britain before the Saxon invasions.

Let's get back to reality! There was a Cromagnid presence in the United Kingdom from the Paleolithic. In the U.K., it's the Paleo Atlantid and the Brunn phenotypes which were present. The Paleo Atlantid phenotype (even more robust than the Dalofaelids) is the modern day equivalent of the Cro-magnons. The Brunn are more common in Western Ireland than anywhere else in the U.K. Nevertheless the bulk of the British population is from the Celts (Keltic Nordid with its subtype the North Atlantid). CM types were pushed to the undesirable parts, the north and the west. The same happens in Ireland where the Brunn was pushed to the west by Nordid invasions. Germanic invasions (Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians, Vikings) brought the following types, Anglo-Saxon (Nordid), Borreby (CM), Dalofaelid (CM), Hallstatt (Nordid), Tronder (Nordid).
So before Saxon invasion, it was still the Nordid (Keltic Iron Age) which reigned supreme in the U.K.

[Septentrion]

In the UK there are large borreby and Brunn populations, in eastern England the Anglo Saxon type is present, while Saxon migrations had an impact I do believe that these phenotypes were present in a lot of Britain before the Saxon invasions.

Belgium, Ireland, the Netherlands and Belgium have larger CM (proportionally) populations than Britain.

[aherne]

Let's get back to reality! There was a Cromagnid presence in the United Kingdom from the Paleolithic. In the U.K., it's the Paleo Atlantid and the Brunn phenotypes which were present. The Paleo Atlantid phenotype (even more robust than the Dalofaelids) is the modern day equivalent of the Cro-magnons. The Brunn are more common in Western Ireland than anywhere else in the U.K. Nevertheless the bulk of the British population is from the Celts (Keltic Nordid with its subtype the North Atlantid). CM types were pushed to the undesirable parts, the north and the west. The same happens in Ireland where the Brunn was pushed to the west by Nordid invasions. Germanic invasions (Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians, Vikings) brought the following types, Anglo-Saxon (Nordid), Borreby (CM), Dalofaelid (CM), Hallstatt (Nordid), Tronder (Nordid).

Perfectly reasonable statement, showing how well racial anthropology fits with history, once we account for the continuous gracilization in the last 10k years. Wherever we go in Europe, ENF ancestry correlates with phenotypes native to and also very common in Anatolia and Middle East: Med, Alpinid, Dinaric and to a lesser extent Armenoid (latter seem to have taken little part in the great migration => less footprint in Europe but you will still find random Armenoids in all European ethnicities).

The so-called CM element (Aboriginal European) retained some of its robustness in NW but became extremely gracilized in the NE. If very gracilized, it is called Baltid: you will find some "Baltids" in Portugal even and you can bet they have no relation to Slavic invasions. If still a bit robust, it is called Faelid or whatever: once again there are some "Faelids" in Bosnia and Albania too, with no relation to Germanic. The super blonde variant in Scandinavia is gracilized too (but not to Baltid level), only that it has a Nordic (boreal) flair that makes it distinct enough to be unable to pass outside their region.

[Oliver109]

Perfectly reasonable statement, showing how well racial anthropology fits with history, once we account for the continuous gracilization in the last 10k years. Wherever we go in Europe, ENF ancestry correlates with phenotypes native to and also very common in Anatolia and Middle East: Med, Alpinid, Dinaric and to a lesser extent Armenoid (latter seem to have taken little part in the great migration => less footprint in Europe but you will still find random Armenoids in all European ethnicities).

The so-called CM element (Aboriginal European) retained some of its robustness in NW but became extremely gracilized in the NE. If very gracilized, it is called Baltid: you will find some "Baltids" in Portugal even and you can bet they have no relation to Slavic invasions. If still a bit robust, it is called Faelid or whatever: once again there are some "Faelids" in Bosnia and Albania too, with no relation to Germanic. The super blonde variant in Scandinavia is gracilized too (but not to Baltid level), only that it has a Nordic (boreal) flair that makes it distinct enough to be unable to pass outside their region.

Alpines in France are not the result of a mythical migration of ENF farmers from western Asia but rather the result of shrunken Cromagnids, the ENF influences in France would be more the Med and occasional Nordic types, plenty of that in the south of France too.

[Septentrion]

Perfectly reasonable statement, showing how well racial anthropology fits with history, once we account for the continuous gracilization in the last 10k years. Wherever we go in Europe, ENF ancestry correlates with phenotypes native to and also very common in Anatolia and Middle East: Med, Alpinid, Dinaric and to a lesser extent Armenoid (latter seem to have taken little part in the great migration => less footprint in Europe but you will still find random Armenoids in all European ethnicities).

The so-called CM element (Aboriginal European) retained some of its robustness in NW but became extremely gracilized in the NE. If very gracilized, it is called Baltid: you will find some "Baltids" in Portugal even and you can bet they have no relation to Slavic invasions. If still a bit robust, it is called Faelid or whatever: once again there are some "Faelids" in Bosnia and Albania too, with no relation to Germanic. The super blonde variant in Scandinavia is gracilized too (but not to Baltid level), only that it has a Nordic (boreal) flair that makes it distinct enough to be unable to pass outside their region.

Watch out dude! I know you mean well, but don’t you ever mix genetics with mere physical phenotypes. You will be completely confused and your statements are going to be easily torn apart by people who are knowledgeable in the field of physical anthropology and genetics.

[Immanenz]

Bell Beakers were part Cro Magnid