What do you think of the role of "communists"?

[Tooting Carmen]

Communism industrialized backward weastern European countries, but at what cost? It destroyed the villages with nationalisation, kolhozes and mass emigration of rural population to work in factories in cities. This was beginning of future and current (eastern) European demographic decline.

Many greens pejoratively call both Capitalism AND Communism 'industrialism'. The UK in particular, being so small, densely-populated and being on the vanguard of the Industrial Revolution lost a lot of countryside thanks to industrialisation. Furthermore, especially in South Wales and Northeast England, it wasn't even necessarily the case that it led to the creation of big towns and cities - in fact, at one point the largest town in Wales was Merthyr Tydfil (current population circa 50,000).

More generally, the way in which Capitalism was introduced and solidified ruined the peasantry: Enclosure Acts privatised what had been communally-held land, Corn Laws opened up to competition what had been protected crops, Poor Laws drastically cut if not abolished what was then called 'relief' for the poor.

[Victor]

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[Kess]

Communism is as totalitarian as Nazism, only that it is dressed up to be more noble and egalitarian.

Noble?

[dviz]

This facebook site says "they are the same as nazis, they are "packs" and same as nazis, and that they were allied with nazis to destroy eastern europe"... Do you think that is ok to say so? Were communists really like nazis? Or this is trivializing actually the nazis and scapegoating the communists?

Im not a communist and it wasnt really good, but i dont think its ok to say they are like nazis and that they were allied with nazis, i think actually nazis and capitalists were closer to eatch other, because capitalists were afraid of communists, some conservatives and capitalists and liberals supported the nazis, because they thought they will defend them against the communists?

Communism is exactly the same as Nazism: it's just an ideology spread with the sole purpose that a select few grab power, regardless of how many people are killed in the process.

Saying they're not the same is the mental sickness of genocide apologists.

[Blondie]

I have positive opinion on comminists. Without communism and their shitty economy, East Europe would be such woke shithole like West Europe. Fortunatelly we are much poorer, and this poverty is a shield.

[Tooting Carmen]

Noble?

In the sense that Communism is putatively about human equality and classlessness, whereas Nazism is hierarchical and brutal even in theory.

[Scarface F]

In the sense that Communism is putatively about human equality and classlessness, whereas Nazism is hierarchical and brutal even in theory.

Communism promoted genocide of the intellectual class, bourgeoisie and clergy.

[Tooting Carmen]

Communism promoted genocide of the intellectual class, bourgeoisie and clergy.

Although Communist theory promoted Proletarian revolution, this didn't entail genociding the aforementioned groups. What is beyond doubt is that most Communist governments were indeed very brutal and repressive.

[Hektor12]

Communism promoted genocide of the intellectual class, bourgeoisie and clergy.

***For the people, despite the people***

[Scarface F]

Although Communist theory promoted Proletarian revolution, this didn't entail genociding the aforementioned groups. What is beyond doubt is that most Communist governments were indeed very brutal and repressive.

How it didn't? Read about revolution in Russia, for example. Or China. Or Cambodia.