Armenia considers possibility of joining the EU

[Victor]

So you're the authority now, good to know.

I'm not the source of Truth, but Orthodoxy is. For you, who don't believe in Holy Trinity in any form, they should be equally irrelevant as we are, Orthodox Christians.

[kingmob]

I'm not the source of Truth, but Orthodoxy is. For you, who don't believe in Holy Trinity in any form, they should be equally irrelevant as we are, Orthodox Christians.

Orthodoxy according to whom, you are the breakaways from the Patriarchate of Constantinople, hardly different to the Armenian case.

I could care less either way, by the way, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

[Victor]

Orthodoxy according to whom, you are the breakaways from the Patriarchate of Constantinople, hardly different to the Armenian case.

I could care less either way, by the way, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

This breakaway was resolved and healed hundreds of years ago. It had no dogmatical side of the question either. Armenians may resolve their problem, too, by accepting the correct Orthodox teaching, in any day.

[kingmob]

This breakaway was resolved and healed hundreds of years ago. It had no dogmatical side of the question either.

No, it wasn't.

For example, see the recent seething from your Patriarchate when Constantinople included the Ukrainian Church among its midst, how you lost the St. Panteleimon monastery in Mt. Athos to Ukrainians, etc.

Your Patriarchate's stance towards the seat in Constantinople is very antagonistic to put it mildly.

[FinalFlash]

I think your people who cannot integrate for generations here should leave to their promised land then, stop being the slaves.

That's untrue in my experience. Often times, those who are born and raised in Russia(2nd generation) onwards are extremely Russified and foreign to me. For example, I have a niece and nephew in Moscow who can't speak a lick of Armenian to save their lives. And besides, what are they going to assimilate into? There is, unfortunately, a common Soviet culture that is shared among most, if not all nationalities. I think you're heavily exaggerating due to an unpleasant anecdotal experience. For the life of me I cannot imagine an Armenian having a tougher time assimilating in Russia than an Azeri or a hardcore Islamic Dagestani. This notion is laughable to me to be quite honest with you.

As for your last comment, I agree. It's about time Armenia stops putting all their eggs in the Russian basket. It's a fruitless venture. Problem is, that's not what Russia wants. Hell, I'm not even sure if the Russian government is looking out for Russian peoples' interests at this point. Then again, that's of no concern to me.

[kingmob]

Not to mention the creation of the Bulgarian Exarchate and the formation of Bulgaria of St. Stephano with the sole purpose of destroying Greece and creating the biggest religious based conflict among Christians in the Balkans/Greece.

What hundreds of years are you talking about.

[Victor]

No, it wasn't.

For example, see the recent seething from your Patriarchate when Constantinople included the Ukrainian Church among its midst, how you lost the St. Panteleimon monastery in Mt. Athos to Ukrainians, etc.

Your Patriarchate's stance towards the seat in Constantinople is very antagonistic to put it mildly.

This political "church" came out of nowhere, made of non ordained "priests", unrepented heretics, people with no apostolic succession. In a proper procedure only existing UOC which belongs to Moscow patriarchate can be granted autocephaly. This ecumenist, ultramodernist even syncretist "Ukrainian church" canonically is just a gathering of non ordained civilians wearing the priests outfit. This "church" is a biggest joke while conscious Christians in Ukraine belong to UOC no matter their attitude to war.

[kingmob]

This political "church" came out of nowhere, made of non ordained "priests", unrepented heretics, people with no apostolic succession. In a proper procedure only existing UOC which belongs to Moscow patriarchate can be granted autocephaly. This ecumenist, ultramodernist even syncretist "Ukrainian church" canonically is just a gathering of non ordained civilians wearing the priests outfit. This "church" is a biggest joke while conscious Christians in Ukraine belong to UOC no matter their attitude to war.

Constantinople obviously disagrees with you. You gonna bomb them too?

[Victor]

Constantinople obviously disagrees with you. You gonna bomb them too?

No, it's enough to know the truth. Lots of Greek, Cypriot Greek hierarchs, lots of mount Athos don't recognize this "church" personally. If pope Bartholomew would accept gay marriages, ordain woman priests would it mean it's ok because it's done by Constantinople? No. That's some blind papism. Truth is not a game of opinions.

[Victor]

Constantinople obviously disagrees with you. You gonna bomb them too?

No, Constantinople just accepts it this way. They perfectly know whose clergy of this "Church" and it does not make them right.