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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurafricanid View Post
    Yeah, only these weird exceptions German_Hamburg and French_Seine-Maritime, for some reason.

    French_Seine-Maritime is anti-SSA coded as I explained here:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...25-coordinates

    1 positive: Atlantic-Baltic
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    Iberian coordinates have a lower first value than Central_Med (except Iberian_North which is Basque-shifted) making it a worse mathematical fit for "anti-SSA" French_Seine-Maritime.

    Iberian_East,0.1184852,0.1466671,0.0411899,0.00006 46,0.0441266,-0.0008648,-0.0009887,0.0017645,0.0225256,0.0319384,-0.0031286,0.0079933,-0.0149823,-0.011601,0.0082183,0.0009705,-0.0014005,0.0002809,-0.001533,-0.0017668,0.0035137,-0.000132,-0.002082,-0.0028061,0.0000488
    Iberian_Central,0.1156324,0.1462228,0.0429879,-0.0000613,0.04587,-0.0026635,-0.001657,0.0019672,0.0248004,0.033856,-0.0041126,0.0085446,-0.0156938,-0.0139212,0.010809,0.0007316,-0.0025904,-0.0009858,-0.0033166,-0.001854,0.0035471,-0.0005144,-0.002592,-0.0042812,-0.000677
    Iberian_West,0.106563,0.145623,0.03674,-0.003236,0.042655,-0.003776,-0.004222,0.002452,0.025403,0.030146,-0.001154,0.006941,-0.012896,-0.01132,0.011758,-0.000897,-0.002824,-0.001215,-0.00578,-0.000251,0.001757,-0.003251,0.00042,-0.001413,0.000817
    Central_Med,0.1202747,0.1556303,0.0206336,-0.031555,0.0401615,-0.0137039,-0.0022873,0.0001032,0.0209758,0.0447941,-0.0003238,0.0100587,-0.0177902,-0.007928,-0.0067839,-0.0014709,0.0058663,0.0000637,0.0024883,-0.0066234,-0.0014935,0.0001843,-0.0044657,-0.0065243,-0.0004729
    French_Seine-Maritime,0.1360185,0.1370965,0.0452545,0.0295545,0.039084,0.0167335, 0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.0074935,-0.0075815,-0.0016515,0.0142505,0.0035135,-0.0079535,-0.002344,0.0009425,-0.0050025,0.0039305,0.0055025,0.000863,0.0042775,-0.0044905
    Northwest_Euro,0.1332519,0.1296292,0.0667422,0.053 4416,0.0403405,0.0201096,0.005305,0.0069933,0.0035 97,-0.005397,-0.004077,0.0036383,-0.0072955,-0.0079836,0.0179506,0.0042366,-0.0069207,0.001529,0.0029828,0.0012776,0.0049877,0 .0026024,0.0037692,0.0151958,0.0014432


    The opposite is true for German_Hamburg where the first value is significantly lower than that of Northwest_Euro and to produce a better mathematical fit it needs coordinates where the first value is significantly lower without harboring too much Levantine shift (4 negative) which Central_Med would provide.

    4 positive: Mesolithic Eurasian
    4 negative: East Med
    Northwest_Euro,0.1332519,0.1296292,0.0667422,0.0534416,0.0403405,0.0201096,0.005305,0.0069933,0.0035 97,-0.005397,-0.004077,0.0036383,-0.0072955,-0.0079836,0.0179506,0.0042366,-0.0069207,0.001529,0.0029828,0.0012776,0.0049877,0 .0026024,0.0037692,0.0151958,0.0014432
    German_Hamburg,0.1282853,0.1339901,0.0634672,0.048526,0.0400617,0.0203755,0.0075618,0.0091083,0.0029597 ,-0.0035589,-0.0038782,8.82e-05,-0.0025097,0.0007529,0.0094365,0.0032679,-0.0045558,0.0025562,0.0039926,0.0006842,0.0017395, 0.0015566,0.0027185,0.0073504,-0.0010354
    Iberian_East,0.1184852,0.1466671,0.0411899,0.00006 46,0.0441266,-0.0008648,-0.0009887,0.0017645,0.0225256,0.0319384,-0.0031286,0.0079933,-0.0149823,-0.011601,0.0082183,0.0009705,-0.0014005,0.0002809,-0.001533,-0.0017668,0.0035137,-0.000132,-0.002082,-0.0028061,0.0000488
    Iberian_Central,0.1156324,0.1462228,0.0429879,-0.0000613,0.04587,-0.0026635,-0.001657,0.0019672,0.0248004,0.033856,-0.0041126,0.0085446,-0.0156938,-0.0139212,0.010809,0.0007316,-0.0025904,-0.0009858,-0.0033166,-0.001854,0.0035471,-0.0005144,-0.002592,-0.0042812,-0.000677
    Iberian_West,0.106563,0.145623,0.03674,-0.003236,0.042655,-0.003776,-0.004222,0.002452,0.025403,0.030146,-0.001154,0.006941,-0.012896,-0.01132,0.011758,-0.000897,-0.002824,-0.001215,-0.00578,-0.000251,0.001757,-0.003251,0.00042,-0.001413,0.000817
    Central_Med,0.1202747,0.1556303,0.0206336,-0.031555,0.0401615,-0.0137039,-0.0022873,0.0001032,0.0209758,0.0447941,-0.0003238,0.0100587,-0.0177902,-0.007928,-0.0067839,-0.0014709,0.0058663,0.0000637,0.0024883,-0.0066234,-0.0014935,0.0001843,-0.0044657,-0.0065243,-0.0004729

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    Aggregate - Yes

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 2.0746% / 0.02074580
    66.2 Iberian_Central
    12.0 Northwest_Asian
    6.6 Amerindian
    6.6 North_Africa
    3.6 SSA
    3.0 Northeast_Euro
    2.0 Iberian_North

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 2.1611% / 0.02161081 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    78.8 Iberian_West
    9.0 Northwest_Asian
    6.6 Amerindian
    4.0 SSA
    1.6 North_Africa

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    Code:
    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 2.0746% / 0.02074580
    66.2	Iberian_Central
    12.0	Northwest_Asian
    6.6	North_Africa
    6.6	Amerindian:Peru_Antaura_Tiwanaku
    3.6	SSA:Gambian
    3.0	Northeast_Euro
    2.0	Iberian_North
    
    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 2.1602% / 0.02160166 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    78.8	Iberian_West
    8.8	Northwest_Asian
    6.6	Amerindian:Peru_Antaura_Tiwanaku
    2.0	North_Africa
    2.0	SSA:Umbundu
    1.8	SSA:Gambian
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    0.06690068	Iberian_West
    0.07517537	Iberian_Central
    0.07634186	Iberian_East
    0.08467539	Iberian_North
    0.09075841	Central_Med
    0.11550575	Northwest_Euro
    0.13409561	Northwest_Asian
    0.13910748	Levantine
    0.15518559	Northeast_Euro
    0.21995897	North_Africa
    0.40707112	Turkic
    0.55043046	Amerindian:North
    0.62255635	Amerindian:Mixe
    0.64661427	Amerindian:Yukpa
    0.64837364	Amerindian:Peru_Antaura_Tiwanaku
    0.68175321	Amerindian:Surui
    0.68512027	SSA:Gambian
    0.70365938	SSA:Umbundu
    0.71170826	SSA:Yoruba
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    23andMe V3 file:
    Distance: 1.4701% / 0.01470099 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    48.4 Iberian_East
    45.0 Northwest_Euro
    4.8 Northeast_Euro
    1.8 Northwest_Asian

    LivingDNA file:
    Distance: 2.0270% / 0.02027006 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    63.0 Northwest_Euro
    25.0 Central_Med
    6.8 Iberian_East
    4.0 Northeast_Euro
    1.2 Northwest_Asian


    My father:
    Distance: 2.1448% / 0.02144844 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    60.8 Northwest_Euro
    35.0 Iberian_North
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    Distance: 3.3074% / 0.03307360 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    48.6 Northwest_Euro
    26.8 Central_Med
    12.2 Northeast_Euro
    9.2 Iberian_West
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    Target: BrandenburgGaming
    Distance: 1.4450% / 0.01445040 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    59.4 Northwest_Euro
    24.4 Northeast_Euro
    14.8 Central_Med
    1.4 Iberian

    Target: BrandenburgGaming
    Distance: 1.4450% / 0.01445044 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    59.2 Northwest_Euro
    24.4 Northeast_Euro
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    plenty of Iberian, but what is northwest Asian?


    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 1.7870% / 0.01786974
    78.8 Northwest_Euro
    11.0 Iberian:West
    7.0 Central_Med
    3.2 Northwest_Asian

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    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 1.8211% / 0.01821084
    80.0 Northwest_Euro
    10.8 Central_Med
    7.8 Iberian:West
    1.4 Levantine

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    Target: G25noricum_scaled
    Distance: 2.2844% / 0.02284420 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    46.8 Northeast_Euro
    28.6 Central_Med
    23.0 Northwest_Euro
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    plenty of Iberian, but what is northwest Asian?


    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 1.7870% / 0.01786974
    78.8 Northwest_Euro
    11.0 Iberian:West
    7.0 Central_Med
    3.2 Northwest_Asian

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    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 1.8211% / 0.01821084
    80.0 Northwest_Euro
    10.8 Central_Med
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    Distance to: Northwest_Asian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixdguy17 View Post
    Nice dude!

    Are there any tools or calcs that I could use to determine my SSA and North african? My European and Amerindian tend to be exactly the same most of the time, but my SSA and North african just fluctuates so much between each calc. I would say I am probably around 10-12% SSA (I would bet 11%) but in calcs it goes from 10 to 6% wildly, and same goes for my North African, 23andMe gives me 5% but calcs can go from 6 to 15% at times, i just dont know which to believe.
    You don't have to believe in anything, just use all the data you have in the SSA department and in the Iberian populations and SSA populations that you've inherited to infer the optimal percentage, having the parts separated also helps, a lot, but even before I've had them separated, I already knew it was 47-47.2% from the data I'd gathered.
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    Target: cass
    Distance: 1.0290% / 0.01029020 | ADC: 0.25x
    49.6 Northeast_Euro
    37.4 Northwest_Euro
    8.6 Central_Med
    3.2 Iberian
    1.2 Northwest_Asian


    Target: PolishL_Kuyavia1
    Distance: 1.9506% / 0.01950645 | ADC: 0.25x
    62.6 Northeast_Euro
    16.2 Northwest_Euro
    10.6 Central_Med
    10.6 Iberian


    It is interesting to what extent it is a fragment of an element brought by the Germans and to what extent it is a remnant of the Globular Amphora.

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    Target: caesarsalad_scaled
    Distance: 2.5630% / 0.02563042 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    79.6 Central_Med
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