Assisted dying: Canada’s sinister experiment

[CosmoLady]

I was only speaking about myself.

My relatives and partner can make their own decisions about their bodies and deaths.

And you would NEVER pressure them right? Directly or indirectly? Bother them about medical bills?
Or plant any ideas in their mind?

How would you feel about "deciding" for a dying baby, or for a dying child or a dying adult who is retarded?

Does the same utilitarian logic about the "benefit" of "rotting on a bed" apply?

We can see this in Canada,
the more "choice" there is about assisted death, the more people are pressured into making that "choice".

Thus so many of the dead are not terminally ill, but merely sick (mentally or physically) or poor.

Now assisted death will be extended to children and drug addicts as well. Proof of the slippery slope

[Hithaeglir]

And you would NEVER pressure them right? Directly or indirectly? Or plant any ideas in their mind? Bother them about medical bills?

How would you feel about "deciding" for a dying baby, or for a dying child or a dying adult who is retarded?

Does the same utilitarian logic about the "benefit" of "rotting on a bed" apply?

We can see this in Canada,
the more "choice" there is about assisted death, the more people are pressured into making that "choice".

Thus so many of the dead are not terminally ill, but merely sick (mentally or physically) or poor.

Now assisted death will be extended to children and drug addicts as well. Proof of the slippery slope

You are kind of weird and oddly intrusive.

And no, I wouldn't coerce my own relatives or future babies to choose assisted dying because of medical bills or other reasons. However, I want to have that choice for myself.

[Scarface F]

There are opiates for that, some very powerful ones. The patient can sleep peacefully all day even with late-stage cancer.

If patients still want to end their life, then they can commit suicide on their own, not destroy the medical profession.
Trust, reputation, competence, morality and ethics are critical for doctors and society to uphold.

The truth is that the medical profession is full of psychopaths and sadists, unfortunately. Many of them are women.
Look at the medical transgender complex (which is very profitable),
also a form of mass medically-assisted-suicide of younger people.

Trust in the medical profession has already been obliterated thanks to the Covid fiasco,
which exposed some deep rot in the profession.

And now the medical profession has crossed the line into homicide?! Western medicine is finished.

I noticed many people who are doctors have psychopathic traits and are not very humaritarian.
All what you wrote is true.

It's because many chose medicine due to prestige and high pay it brings, and not because they love humans and feel deep need to help them.

[CosmoLady]

You are kind of weird and oddly intrusive.

And no, I wouldn't coerce my own relatives or future babies to choose assisted dying because of medical bills or other reasons. However, I want to have that choice for myself.

And you presume to ask a doctor to violate the Hippocratic Oath, the foundation of medicine, because you want?

Even in liberal Canada, there is a shortage of cold psychopathic "doctors" willing to kill their patients.

Meanwhile this is the 2nd time you dodged the question.

Would you decide to end the life of a dying child, or dying baby, or dying retarded adult?
Since they cannot decide for themselves? Since your entire value system is based on "choice" and "benefit"?

As their mother/guardian, would you presume to "choose" for them?

Hypothetical question, it gets to the heart of the matter. I want to see how deep the utilitarian logic goes.

[CosmoLady]

I noticed many people who are doctors have psychopathic traits and are not very humaritarian.
All what you wrote is true.

It's because many chose medicine due to prestige and high pay it brings, and not because they love humans and feel deep need to help them.

Yes indeed, and I am certain that some or many doctors/nurses are functioning sociopaths, psychopaths, sadists,

products of their amoral environment, who simply found a useful, legal and well-paying outlet for a pre-existing pathology.

[Hithaeglir]

And you presume to ask a doctor to violate the Hippocratic Oath, the foundation of medicine, because you want?

Even in liberal Canada, there is a shortage of cold psychopathic "doctors" willing to kill their patients.

Meanwhile this is the 2nd time you dodged the question.

Would you decide to end the life of a dying child or baby or retarded adult?
Since they cannot decide for themselves? Since your entire value system is based on "choice" and "benefit" and "rotting in bed"?

As their mother/guardian, would you presume to "choose" for them?

Hypothetical question, it gets to the heart of the matter. I want to see how deep the utilitarian logic goes.

Sorry, I don't think you are able to hold a logical conversation. It seems like we are running in circles.

[CosmoLady]

Sorry, I don't think you are able to hold a logical conversation. It seems like we are running in circles.

And you dodged the question for the 3rd time, congratulations, you cannot answer a basic question, I wonder why?

Whereas I can answer this question very easily.

[Hithaeglir]

And you dodged the question for the 3rd time, congratulations, you cannot answer a basic question, I wonder why?

Whereas I can answer this question very easily.

I have already answered your question in many of my previous posts.

[CosmoLady]

I have already answered your question in many of my previous posts.

No you did not, you said the following, which was a rhetorical dodge. That was not my entire question and you know it.

And no, I wouldn't coerce my own relatives or future babies to choose assisted dying because of medical bills or other reasons.

Would you decide to end the life of a dying child, or dying baby, or dying retarded adult?

How would you feel about "deciding" for a dying baby, or for a dying child or a dying adult who is retarded?

[Hithaeglir]

No you did not, you said the following, which was a rhetorical dodge. That was not my entire question and you know it.

This is funny. I also said :

Children should not have the choice for assisted dying as they do not have the maturity to take such an important decision.

As in they should be excluded from being able to apply for assisted dying, either on their own or with a guardian. I assumed you knew that assisted dying or assisted suicide can only happen if the person has applied for it. Therefore, no I do not think me or any other adult should decide for a child with a terminal condition.