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    Oh, boy... I can't wait to post on this UN report tonight.

    The Western media is either retarded or dishonest (it's actually both).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post


    CFG, the Walking Contradiction, posts a video claiming how Netanyahu uses Hamas.

    Is Hamas a tool that Israel uses for its own interests? Or are they a Palestinian liberation group preventing Zionist settlements?

    Not to mention your enthusiasm to defend and refute Hamas atrocities such as rapings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kess View Post


    CFG, the Walking Contradiction, posts a video claiming how Netanyahu uses Hamas.

    Is Hamas a tool that Israel uses for its own interests? Or are they a Palestinian liberation group preventing Zionist settlements?

    Not to mention your enthusiasm to defend and refute Hamas atrocities such as rapings.
    Did you watch the video or just looked at the title? Have you actually read what I have written?

    Before accusing someone of making contradictions have the triple digit IQ to understand when a contradiction is made.

    Both can be true. Israel used Israel and it has blown up in their face.

    I'm not defending rapes. There were no rapes.

    I have acknowledged civilians were murdered. Maybe you should pay more attention instead of being big mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Ah, the art of selective memory. Palestinians haven't been "kicked out" of their homes, it's just a consequence of their own leaders deciding to pick a fight with us. And let's not forget how conveniently the majority of them cheered from the sidelines as their leaders led them into a war they were clearly ill-prepared for. But who could blame them for fleeing when things got a bit too hot? After all, when you play with fire, you're bound to get burned.

    Palestinians were handed the opportunity on a silver platter to embrace coexistence and bask in the riches of cooperation with us. But no, they chose to play the role of the ultimate party poopers and let that golden chance slip away.

    For them, the distinctions between 1948 Israel and 1967 Israel seem nonexistent, as they steadfastly view themselves as the rightful heirs to the entire land, while branding Israelis as nothing more than Western interlopers.
    Whether it's 1948 Israel or 1967 Israel, it's all the same – their land, their birthright, and those pesky Israelis merely playing the role of Western colonizers.

    It's important to acknowledge that this perspective isn't exclusive to Hamas; indeed, it resonates with many Palestinians, both in the West Bank and among those living abroad. For them, the sentiment remains consistent – a steadfast belief in their entitlement to the entirety of the land, regardless of the historical nuances. In their eyes, the occupation extends beyond the confines of the West Bank, permeating even the vibrant streets of Tel Aviv. That's precisely why I maintain that negotiations are futile – for Palestinians, only power commands their attention.
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    Listening to a Westerner wax poetic about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is akin to diving headfirst into a pool of ignorance and naivety. They preach from their lofty pedestal, sympathizing with what they perceive as the oppressed while conveniently ignoring the true aggressor lurking beneath the surface. But oh, the irony! For Israel, the supposed "aggressor," has never so much as lifted a finger to start a war. Yet somehow, the narrative remains skewed in favor of those who cry victim. Oh, the wonders of Western enlightenment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florstadt View Post
    Ah, the art of selective memory. Palestinians haven't been "kicked out" of their homes, it's just a consequence of their own leaders deciding to pick a fight with us. And let's not forget how conveniently the majority of them cheered from the sidelines as their leaders led them into a war they were clearly ill-prepared for. But who could blame them for fleeing when things got a bit too hot? After all, when you play with fire, you're bound to get burned.
    They were kicked out of their homes and are still under threat. The illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank, are, after all, illegal.

    Israel caused the war of 1948. They began murdering Palestinian Arabs. Other Arabs stepped in (and were actually winning until the ceasefire when Israelis began receiving illegal shipments of arms; that turned the tide (thank Lansky).

    The Zionists had formed terrorist gangs prior that murdered British, Palestinians, and even Jews. Guess who didn't have terrorist gangs bombing the King David Hotel (and other bombings) and assassinations of political officials, such as Lord Moyne? It wasn't the Palestinians. It was Zionists.

    Palestinians were handed the opportunity on a silver platter to embrace coexistence and bask in the riches of cooperation with us. But no, they chose to play the role of the ultimate party poopers and let that golden chance slip away.
    Your ogre Netanyahu says otherwise. In the video you quoted but didn't watch there is a video of him stating he sabotaged peace and his goal was perpetual war with Palestinians to make them submit. He was secretly recorded. He even asked that the camera be turned off so he could 'expand' on what he was saying.

    How are you going to spin that? From the mouth of the devil himself.

    For them, the distinctions between 1948 Israel and 1967 Israel seem nonexistent, as they steadfastly view themselves as the rightful heirs to the entire land, while branding Israelis as nothing more than Western interlopers.
    Whether it's 1948 Israel or 1967 Israel, it's all the same – their land, their birthright, and those pesky Israelis merely playing the role of Western colonizers.
    Israel instigated the war of 1967 with a 'pre-emptive attack' except Egypt wasn't planning to attack Israel. Egypt was in the middle of a losing war in Yemen. Yemenn was basically their Vietnam. No one actually thought Egypt wanted war with Israel. In fact, Johnson is quoted as basically saying Israel's claim they were going to be attacked was bullshit. Johnson is quoted in his biography stating Israel wasn't in real danger. Do you want me to post what he said from his biography?

    In their eyes, the occupation extends beyond the confines of the West Bank, permeating even the vibrant streets of Tel Aviv. That's precisely why I maintain that negotiations are futile – for Palestinians, only power commands their attention.
    Palestinians have shown over and over again they are willing to accept a pre-1967 border two-state solution. Israel does not want that. Israel wants what the original Zionists have stated they wanted: the whole land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florstadt View Post
    Listening to a Westerner wax poetic about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is akin to diving headfirst into a pool of ignorance and naivety. They preach from their lofty pedestal, sympathizing with what they perceive as the oppressed while conveniently ignoring the true aggressor lurking beneath the surface. But oh, the irony! For Israel, the supposed "aggressor," has never so much as lifted a finger to start a war. Yet somehow, the narrative remains skewed in favor of those who cry victim. Oh, the wonders of Western enlightenment!
    That deserves two bad Shmuly.



    I addressing everything you say. You ignore much of what say. The only thing you're good for is to whine and cry.

    But thank you for being here. It's not as if someone more competent would do better but your bitchy ramblings do serve a purpose that is beneficial to the Palestinian cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Palestinians have shown over and over again they are willing to accept a pre-1967 border two-state solution. Israel does not want that. Israel wants what the original Zionists have stated they wanted: the whole land.

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