Are Spaniards closer to French or Italians?

[Eurafricanid]

Very Interesting man! What about the Portuguese?

Distance to: Portuguese
0.03153845 French_Provence
0.03398902 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.03489711 French_Auvergne
0.03508694 Italian_Bergamo
0.03510782 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03528375 French_Bigorre
0.03582881 Italian_Veneto
0.03588234 French_South
0.03654889 Italian_Lombardy
0.03747613 Italian_Piedmont


Which is kinda weird, since the Galicians and Andalusians aren't like that:

Distance to: Spanish_Galicia
0.02996167 French_Provence
0.03017068 French_Bigorre
0.03037258 French_Auvergne
0.03059919 French_South
0.03310625 French_Bearn
0.03345307 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.03356021 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03358094 French_Occitanie
0.03469345 French_Chalosse
0.03506669 Italian_Bergamo


Distance to: Portuguese
0.00989610 Spanish_Galicia
0.01032682 Spanish_Andalucia
0.01189152 Spanish_Extremadura
0.01319638 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.01498902 Spanish_Alacant
0.01525384 Spanish_Murcia
0.01590351 Spanish_Eivissa
0.01631631 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.01809612 Spanish_Valencia
0.01851309 Spanish_Cantabria

[Gallop]

Mi propio resultado se ajusta a lo que se dice, en cuanto a extranjeros, primero Portugal, después muchas Francias hasta llegar al primer italiano; aunque antes está incluso Suiza francesa. En definitiva cerca del resto de europeos, todos las distancias son 0.0.

Spoiler!

Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.01990051 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.02158204 Spanish_Galicia
0.02168464 Spanish_Cantabria
0.02251196 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.02307482 Spanish_Andalucia
0.02310697 Portuguese
0.02471691 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02473026 Spanish_Valencia
0.02506357 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02518261 Spanish_Aragon
0.02522227 Spanish_Menorca
0.02524868 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02576894 Spanish_Pirineu
0.02588183 Spanish_Alacant
0.02621271 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02631898 Spanish_Lleida
0.02656999 Spanish_Baleares
0.02706034 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.02771570 Spanish_Castello
0.02780655 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02790947 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02807802 Spanish_Penedes
0.02815760 Spanish_Extremadura
0.02819362 Spanish_Murcia
0.02824495 Spanish_Girona
0.02857310 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.02883137 Spanish_Biscay
0.02906472 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02974299 Spanish_Burgos
0.03164128 French_South
0.03191541 Spanish_Aragon_North
0.03230142 Spanish_Navarra
0.03345746 Spanish_Asturias
0.03385297 French_Bigorre
0.03464373 Basque_Navarre_Center
0.03507516 French_Bearn
0.03567037 French_Auvergne
0.03569384 French_Chalosse
0.03750115 French_Provence
0.03758133 Spanish_Soria
0.03782203 French_Occitanie
0.03827746 Basque_Spanish
0.03840087 Swiss_French
0.03897548 Basque_Araba
0.03980915 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.04009948 Basque_Roncal
0.04062463 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04088423 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.04100796 Basque_Lower_Navarre
0.04129569 Basque_French
0.04182512 Basque_Gipuzkoa
0.04189664 Spanish_Canarias
0.04196048 Basque_Biscay
0.04305580 Basque_Navarre_North
0.04362653 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.04375100 Basque_Soule
0.04443419 Italian_Veneto
0.04565506 Italian_Bergamo
0.04568484 Basque_Baztan
0.04602349 Italian_Liguria
0.04688537 Italian_Lombardy
0.04771294 BelgianC
0.04793269 Swiss_German
0.04853736 French_Paris
0.04897066 Italian_Piedmont
0.04910191 Italian_Northeast
0.05140813 French_Nord
0.05145056 French_Alsace
0.05177609 French_Corsica
0.05209488 Swiss_Italian
0.05267411 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.05290650 Italian_Emilia
0.05364794 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.05367069 BelgianB
0.05872731 Italian_Tuscany
0.05924433 BelgianA
0.06299682 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06315862 Afrikaner
0.06395285 French_Brittany
0.06474992 Romanian
0.06687709 Italian_Umbria
0.06766549 Austrian
0.06799131 Italian_Marche
0.06837289 Greek_Thessaly
0.06841434 Bulgarian
0.06914269 Montenegrin
0.06943541 German
0.06985064 Belmonte_Jew
0.07019439 German_Erlangen
0.07025131 Italian_Lazio
0.07051222 Welsh
0.07065803 English_Cornwall
0.07135115 Gagauz
0.07149876 Macedonian
0.07150831 Serbian
0.07179840 Albanian
0.07216800 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.07267365 English
0.07270863 Dutch
0.07416099 Sicilian_West

[Blondie]

Phenotype:Italians.

Nope, spaniards and frrench are mostly atlantid unlike italians. Spain is much closer to France in every way.

[Defcon2]

With my coordinates Italians are closer.

Spoiler!

Distance to: Defcon2_scaled
0.02910453 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03060658 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03207120 Spanish_Murcia
0.03254586 Portuguese
0.03321372 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03357197 Spanish_Galicia
0.03396093 Spanish_Asturias
0.03519913 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03564540 Spanish_Valencia
0.03572431 Spanish_Aragon
0.03575547 Spanish_Alacant
0.03579724 Spanish_Menorca
0.03637523 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03689213 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03726761 Spanish_Baleares
0.03763331 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03918715 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03940735 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04021304 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04023849 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04029485 Spanish_Canarias
0.04040945 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04043393 Spanish_Lleida
0.04043567 Spanish_Navarra
0.04049958 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04083485 Spanish_Girona
0.04144940 Spanish_Castello
0.04211928 Spanish_Penedes
0.04229370 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04267525 Spanish_Biscay
0.04295798 Spanish_Burgos
0.04432745 Italian_Liguria
0.04475044 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04562224 Italian_Lombardy
0.04568367 Italian_Bergamo
0.04643683 French_Bigorre
0.04659823 French_South
0.04736833 French_Provence
0.04741554 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.04831496 Spanish_Aragon_North
0.04937041 French_Bearn
0.04977450 French_Auvergne
0.04994702 Basque_Navarre_Center
0.05062293 French_Chalosse
0.05066392 French_Corsica
0.05079288 Italian_Piedmont
0.05110034 Italian_Veneto
0.05217244 Italian_Emilia
0.05241069 French_Occitanie
0.05277034 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.05297311 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05315709 Swiss_French
0.05342095 Basque_Spanish
0.05346550 Basque_French
0.05434027 Basque_Araba
0.05455585 Italian_Northeast
0.05497788 Swiss_Italian
0.05501505 Basque_Lower_Navarre
0.05520648 Spanish_Soria
0.05567016 Basque_Soule
0.05575671 Basque_Roncal
0.05683434 Basque_Gipuzkoa
0.05691995 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.05700987 Basque_Biscay
0.05760161 Basque_Navarre_North
0.05799460 Italian_Tuscany
0.05894395 Basque_Baztan
0.05941788 Swiss_German
0.05982704 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.06083948 BelgianC
0.06115874 French_Paris
0.06345772 French_Alsace
0.06414813 French_Nord
0.06509466 Italian_Umbria
0.06593996 Italian_Marche
0.06683231 Greek_Thessaly
0.06714308 BelgianB
0.06861070 Romanian
0.06870554 Italian_Lazio
0.06880651 French_Pas-de-Calais

[Melkiirs]

With my coordinates Italians are closer.

Spoiler!

Distance to: Defcon2_scaled
0.02910453 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03060658 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03207120 Spanish_Murcia
0.03254586 Portuguese
0.03321372 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03357197 Spanish_Galicia
0.03396093 Spanish_Asturias
0.03519913 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03564540 Spanish_Valencia
0.03572431 Spanish_Aragon
0.03575547 Spanish_Alacant
0.03579724 Spanish_Menorca
0.03637523 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03689213 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03726761 Spanish_Baleares
0.03763331 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03918715 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.03940735 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04021304 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04023849 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04029485 Spanish_Canarias
0.04040945 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04043393 Spanish_Lleida
0.04043567 Spanish_Navarra
0.04049958 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04083485 Spanish_Girona
0.04144940 Spanish_Castello
0.04211928 Spanish_Penedes
0.04229370 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.04267525 Spanish_Biscay
0.04295798 Spanish_Burgos
0.04432745 Italian_Liguria
0.04475044 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04562224 Italian_Lombardy
0.04568367 Italian_Bergamo
0.04643683 French_Bigorre
0.04659823 French_South
0.04736833 French_Provence
0.04741554 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.04831496 Spanish_Aragon_North
0.04937041 French_Bearn
0.04977450 French_Auvergne
0.04994702 Basque_Navarre_Center
0.05062293 French_Chalosse
0.05066392 French_Corsica
0.05079288 Italian_Piedmont
0.05110034 Italian_Veneto
0.05217244 Italian_Emilia
0.05241069 French_Occitanie
0.05277034 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.05297311 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05315709 Swiss_French
0.05342095 Basque_Spanish
0.05346550 Basque_French
0.05434027 Basque_Araba
0.05455585 Italian_Northeast
0.05497788 Swiss_Italian
0.05501505 Basque_Lower_Navarre
0.05520648 Spanish_Soria
0.05567016 Basque_Soule
0.05575671 Basque_Roncal
0.05683434 Basque_Gipuzkoa
0.05691995 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.05700987 Basque_Biscay
0.05760161 Basque_Navarre_North
0.05799460 Italian_Tuscany
0.05894395 Basque_Baztan
0.05941788 Swiss_German
0.05982704 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.06083948 BelgianC
0.06115874 French_Paris
0.06345772 French_Alsace
0.06414813 French_Nord
0.06509466 Italian_Umbria
0.06593996 Italian_Marche
0.06683231 Greek_Thessaly
0.06714308 BelgianB
0.06861070 Romanian
0.06870554 Italian_Lazio
0.06880651 French_Pas-de-Calais

Is your Spanish ancestry from Extremadura or Catalonia? Catalans are among the most Northern-shifted Iberians. Your results don’t seem typical Catalan.

[Defcon2]

Is your Spanish ancestry from Extremadura or Catalonia? Catalans are among the most Northern-shifted Iberians. Your results don’t seem typical Catalan.

Yes, my parents are Extremadurans.

[Petalpusher]

Catalans and the likes, anything with substantial Basque, will always be closer to the southernwestern most, not even regions, but little counties like Chalosse, or Bigorre which is right on the border at the feet of the Pyrenees. Some of these places were historically parts of Spain as well (Navarre, Aragon, Catalonia kingdoms)

Anyway 3 or 4 distances is only relatively close. At 3-4 im German or Dutch and in the mid 4 im already Danish... I even get Icelandic before Provence which shows how not French at all this sample is. "Auvergne" is very suspect as well, looks like another made up "internet sample" since it was not in the big French study i posted and i have ancestry from both regions yet they both show up after English or German.

Distance to: Petalpusher
0.03191638 BelgianC
0.03310572 BelgianA
0.03380786 BelgianB
0.03383184 French_Nord
0.03394892 French_Brittany
0.03410401 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03474664 French_Paris
0.03475376 French_Occitanie
0.03500281 French
0.03582582 French_Alsace
0.03643322 Swiss_German
0.03743194 Welsh
0.03781954 English_Cornwall
0.03823071 German
0.03866854 French_Auvergne
0.03878788 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03961301 English
0.04197835 German_Erlangen
0.04241604 Swiss_French
0.04320069 Dutch
0.04371354 Scottish
0.04390441 Orcadian
0.04447983 Austrian
0.04566150 Irish
0.04628198 Danish