My anthropological observations on Spaniards in Andalusia

[Valenman]

Ok, everything is fine, but your observations are strange
1-You have to think that the majority of men over 30 years old in Spain are bald or almost bald, and in the case of women, practically all of them dye their hair blonde (and some also another color) so it would be correct. look at men aged 18-24 who are not bald and do not usually dye their hair. And among them I already told you that at least 10-20% will be blonde (not Nordic blonde obviously)
But Dark Blonde or Light Brown yes and some Red-Haired or Medium-Blonde you can also find.
2-Also regarding the fact that almost everyone looks European, it is true, just like the rest of the Peninsula, but even among native Andalusians, 5% would have Semitic or other non-European features, just as there is in the rest of Spain, 1% is very bit.
3-Also the Northern European or Central European phenotypes are much more common. They will not obviously be pure Keltic Nordid but neither will they all be Alpid and Med.

[aherne]

How common was colored eyes? ( Green, blue, gray, light hazel, dark green )

Right at the level racial anthropologists have measured scientifically: around 10%. That's the same as in Turkey and Armenia...

[Melkiirs]

Right at the level racial anthropologists have measured scientifically: around 10%. That's the same as in Turkey and Armenia...

That's just pure light (blue/grey). Dr. Frederick S. Hulse found 60% pure brown, with much of the remaining 40% being dark hazel not far from pure brown.

"Sixty per cent of Andalusians have pure brown eyes, of which the majority are dark brown, although light brown and mixed-brown irises occur. Mixed-light eyes comprise 30 per cent of the series, with a prev-alence of greenish-brown shades, while 10 per cent of the whole sample possesses bluish-gray eyes, on the gray rather than blue side. A ratio of 40 per cent of light or incipiently light eyes is higher than one expects to find among racially pure Mediterraneans, and indicates the infusion of Nordic blood, from both North European and Berber sources. Probably if the rest of Spain were studied for eye color in the same way, higher ratios of eye blondism would appear elsewhere, since most of the green-brown eyes in this sample are predominantly dark. "

[aherne]

This proves that my racial observations have total scientific backing:

The skin color of the Andalusians is light brown, corresponding to #15 to #18 on the von Luschan chart, in 80 per cent of cases, while only one man in six has a pinkish-white skin of the type so frequent among Ruffians. Sixty per cent have dark brown hair, 30 per cent black hair. The remaining 10 per cent show some evidence of blondism or of rufosity. Only one man out of 420 was truly blond.The hair is straight in half the series, wavy in a third, and curly in a sixth. Six men in the entire group have negroid, frizzly hair; a minor absorption of negro blood, dating from Moorish times, is evident. As a whole, however, Andalusians are free from negroid traits. As among most Mediterraneans, beard and body hair are not abundant.

Sixty per cent of Andalusians have pure brown eyes, of which the majority are dark brown, although light brown and mixed-brown irises occur. Mixed-light eyes comprise 30 per cent of the series, with a prev-alence of greenish-brown shades, while 10 per cent of the whole sample possesses bluish-gray eyes, on the gray rather than blue side.

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI15.htm

[Oliver109]

This proves that my racial observations have total scientific backing:



https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI15.htm

That's still more than what you would get in central-southern Egypt or central Pakistan.

[Septentrion]

I've just returned from a trip to Andalusia (visited Sevilla, Cordoba, Granada, Malaga) and I'll share some observations about phenotypes there.

1. Unlike people I saw in Burgos, for example, virtually all adults are brunet
2. Population is very homogenous: Alpine and Med mixes make up more than 90% of the population
3. There are virtually no "nordics", but there is CM influence (hence some people with red hair and the usual Baltoid influences)
4. Children are brunet as well (like Sicilians) with hardly any real blondes

Virtually everyone looks European, but there are a few individuals with Semitic look (1% maybe). There is a very big overlap with Italians, but latter are far more heterogenous: they have both Aryan-looking individuals as well as deeply Middle Eastern.

You shouldn’t be surprised. Spain is in Europe, thus a European look is what’s supposed to be expected. Nevertheless, on the European scale, they are dark or swarthy.

[Melkiirs]

That's still more than what you would get in central-southern Egypt or central Pakistan.

10% blue/grey eyes is vastly more than what would occur central-southern Egypt or central Pakistan. The darkest eyed European ethnicity Sardinians are 2.73% pure light Martin-Schlutz #1-4 by the 1983 G.G. Cosseddu study and in those groups it is much lower than this. Those places can occasionally have greenish eyes but almost never blue/grey.

Out of 200 men sampled from Luxor, Egypt, only one was found with predominantly green eyes Martin #8 and none lighter.

https://books.google.com/books?id=TB...l4Q6AF6BAgKEAI

Nuristanis are much lighter than central Pakistan, but even they are not as pure light eyed as Andalusians with only about 5% unmixed blue/grey.

[Beowulf]

10% blue/grey eyes is vastly more than what would occur central-southern Egypt or central Pakistan. The darkest eyed European ethnicity Sardinians are 2.73% pure light Martin-Schlutz #1-4 by the 1983 G.G. Cosseddu study and in those groups it is much lower than this. Those places can occasionally have greenish eyes but almost never blue/grey.

Out of 200 men sampled from Luxor, Egypt, only one was found with predominantly green eyes Martin #8 and none lighter.

https://books.google.com/books?id=TB...l4Q6AF6BAgKEAI

Nuristanis are much lighter than central Pakistan, but even they are not as pure light eyed as Andalusians with only about 5% unmixed blue/grey.

Is there any study like that maded for Baleares?

[Melkiirs]

Is there any study like that maded for Baleares?

There is a paucity of scaled eye data from Spain and what exists such as from Santiago Alcobé only covers a limited area. The Balearic Islands do appear to be darker eyed than Catalonia or Valencia based on the large unscaled Sanchez Fernandez study of recruits. Eye color distribution in the Balearics is probably fairly similar to what Hulse found in Andalusia.

[Beowulf]

There is a paucity of scaled eye data from Spain and what exists such as from Santiago Alcobé only covers a limited area. The Balearic Islands do appear to be darker eyed than Catalonia or Valencia based on the large unscaled Sanchez Fernandez study of recruits. Eye color distribution in the Balearics is probably fairly similar to Andalusia.

hmm i see, it makes sense

but it would have been quite interesting if someone has ever done a study for the islands.

thanks anyways Milkaner.