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Thread: Network of large pedigrees reveals social practices of Avar communities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Which modern groups are they closest to?
    Their ruling class was Tungusian-like, but Pannonian Avars were extremely varied. In the old paper, of all the samples analyzed, the 2 Avars (A1819 and A1821) with the richest and highest status were also the most East Eurasian.

    This is my attempt to divide them into clusters, both old and new Avars are included:
    https://pastebin.com/raw/AN4wUcDm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
    Their ruling class was Tungusian-like, but Pannonian Avars were extremely varied. In the old paper, of all the samples analyzed, the 2 Avars (A1819 and A1821) with the richest and highest status were also the most East Eurasian.

    This is my attempt to divide them into clusters, both old and new Avars are included:
    https://pastebin.com/raw/AN4wUcDm
    Why would the ruling class have been Tungus-Altaic? Not even Turkic people were that much East Eurasian/Mongoloid.

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    Target: G25noricum_scaled
    Distance: 1.3874% / 0.01387368
    29.0 Avars:RKF188.A0101.TF1
    26.4 Avars:KUP010.A0101.TF1
    16.4 Avars:RKF274.A0101.TF1
    13.4 Avars:RKF224.A0101.TF1
    4.4 Avars:RKO001.A0101.TF1
    4.0 Avars:RKO007.A0101.TF1
    2.6 Avars:RKF247.A0101.TF1
    2.2 Avars:RKF106.A0101.TF1
    1.6 Avars:RKF242.A0101.TF1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Why would the ruling class have been Tungus-Altaic? Not even Turkic people were that much East Eurasian/Mongoloid.


    Distance to: Avars:KFJ038.A0101.TF1
    0.05473687 Khamnegan
    0.06335112 Nanai
    0.07412807 Ulchi
    0.07440754 Negidal
    0.07486536 Oroqen
    0.08855868 Todzin
    0.08970273 Tuvinian
    0.09126701 Nivkh
    0.09415059 Buryat
    0.09941097 Mogush

    Distance to: Avars:RKF275.A0101.TF1
    0.02921978 Danish
    0.02940845 German_Hamburg
    0.03061131 Dutch
    0.03085432 German
    0.03205812 Norwegian
    0.03240968 Swedish
    0.03326555 Welsh
    0.03448800 German_Erlangen
    0.03579420 Scottish
    0.03594861 Icelandic

    Distance to: Avars:RKF258.A0101.TF1
    0.03337434 Italian_Basilicata
    0.03348228 Greek_Apulia
    0.03459699 Italian_Campania
    0.03494534 Italian_Calabria
    0.03498821 Greek_Deep_Mani
    0.03504973 Greek_South_Tsakonia
    0.03576927 Italian_Apulia
    0.03605701 Greek_Izmir
    0.03654413 Greek_Cyclades_Amorgos
    0.03706462 Italian_Abruzzo

    Distance to: Avars:RKF251.A0101.TF1
    0.02850369 Bulgarian
    0.02864007 Romanian
    0.02953236 Gagauz
    0.03355969 Turkish_Deliorman
    0.03552458 Moldovan
    0.03590047 Macedonian
    0.03645985 Montenegrin
    0.03693788 Serbian
    0.03891467 Italian_Northeast
    0.03934583 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace

    Distance to: Avars:RKO013.A0101.TF1
    0.02181432 Lithuanian_RA
    0.02334208 Lithuanian_VA
    0.02340184 Lithuanian_SZ
    0.02365237 Lithuanian_PA
    0.02422103 Lithuanian_VZ
    0.02448410 Russian_Pskov
    0.02552969 Belarusian
    0.02633787 Lithuanian_PZ
    0.02716859 Latvian
    0.03003749 Russian_Smolensk

    Distance to: Avars:KFJ034.A0101.TF1
    0.03906391 Turkmen
    0.04251626 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    0.07586350 Tatar_Crimean_steppe
    0.07937599 Tajik_Ayni
    0.08419769 Tajik_Hisor
    0.08824243 Tatar_Lipka
    0.09003153 Uzbek
    0.09622751 Turkish_Antalya
    0.09864676 Turkish_Giresun
    0.09991149 Pamiri_Sarikoli

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Why would the ruling class have been Tungus-Altaic? Not even Turkic people were that much East Eurasian/Mongoloid.
    The core Avars are determined in an earlier paper to have come from the Rouran Khaganate, which was purely Mongolic/East Asian. They had very recently migrated abt. 7000 to 8000 kilometers.
    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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