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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Carmen Ferre From Andalusia








    I agree with the classifications, Subnordid!

    Maybe she had only 1 male Spanish ancestor, who might have been Alpine or Berid?

    Rural Andalusia received many Catholic German colonists in the 18th century, probably these are her ancestors.

    This seems more plausible than her ancestors preserving their Visigoth or Vandal features over the past 1600 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    I agree with the classifications, Subnordid!

    Maybe she had only 1 male Spanish ancestor, who might have been Alpine or Berid?

    Rural Andalusia received many Catholic German colonists in the 18th century, probably these are her ancestors.

    This seems more plausible than her ancestors preserving their Visigoth or Vandal features over the past 1600 years.

    Yes, in Andalusia we have received a huge amount of settlers from the rest of Europe in a relatively modern time, on one occasion I found the pdf file with the names and surnames.

    In other times, it would not be out of the question to find someone, since what is now Andalusia has always been a center of power since ancient times, and that is something that always attracts foreigners.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    Hombre, how do you classify this horse faced Chad from Andalusia.




    can he pass in Dubai?

    why does this look come out when i search for Andalusian people and not some little light brown blue eyed girl? I wonder, oh, i wonder...
    Bro what the fuck lmao, it's from a photographer who give personal stories with the portraits he takes and even mentions the dude is an immigrant on his website, so maybe you should fact check first. Also, I can assure you even with exotic looking Andalusians, he is not one. Also, why do I get this dude when I search Austrian men?




    What logic..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    I agree with the classifications, Subnordid!

    Maybe she had only 1 male Spanish ancestor, who might have been Alpine or Berid?

    Rural Andalusia received many Catholic German colonists in the 18th century, probably these are her ancestors.

    This seems more plausible than her ancestors preserving their Visigoth or Vandal features over the past 1600 years.
    I dont think she is predominantly non-spanish by background, not even 1/4.

    Apart from speculations, someone should test her genetically. Blondes can be found everywhere in Southern Europe and doesnt necessarily means blondes there descend from someone from their northern counterparts.
    Don't date short women if you don't want short kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
    I dont think she is predominantly non-spanish by background, not even 1/4.

    Apart from speculations, someone should test her genetically. Blondes can be found everywhere in Southern Europe and doesnt necessarily means blondes there descend from someone from their northern counterparts.
    She looks like a lot of blonde Andalusians, so I'm confused about trying to trace her roots to German immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrzej View Post
    She looks like a lot of blonde Andalusians, so I'm confused about trying to trace her roots to German immigrants.
    Sounds quite nonsense the idea of every blonde andalusian (or most of them) having northern-european background from XVIII-XIX centuries.
    Don't date short women if you don't want short kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
    Sounds quite nonsense the idea of every blonde andalusian (or most of them) having northern-european background from XVIII-XIX centuries.
    We have a lot of emigration from the rest of Europe to Andalusia, of peasant settlers and whole families with a higher status as well.

    LOS WESTENDORP": ORIGEN DE UNA FAMILIA:
    These are all Andalusians.






    "LOS OPPELT " ORIGEN DE UNA FAMILIA:
    Como tantos apellido extranjeros afincados en nuestra ciudad durante el siglo XIX, encontramos uno de origen ALEMÁN ," OPPELT".



    LOS SCHNEIDER MALAGUEÑOS "ORIGEN DE UNA FAMILIAPARTE 2 )



    And I could go on and on.

    There are also many Italian families, I wouldn't want the Italians to feel slighted, but I can't put them all, it would be pages and pages of other Europeans in Andalusia. hehe
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrzej View Post
    Do you think blond hair is Indigenous to Dutch and English lands? Because it isn't.. it also came there with migration.
    Blonde hair, blue eyes are recessive genes associated with the Baltic area (Vandals, etc.),
    likewise red hair is a recessive gene associated with the Northern British Isles, etc.

    The genes for blonde hair and blue eyes rarely survive long-term in a population of brunette brown-eyed people.

    Quote Originally Posted by andrzej View Post
    Yes, my ex is from Seville and I am friends with many locals.

    I'm sorry, how on earth could you know that someone is a descendant of colonists? You went around and asked blond people?
    The blondes that I see are usually foreigners, usually more obvious than I am. Some have been living in Spain since the 20th century.

    Sometimes, rarely, I find blondes in rural Andalusia and I chat with them, and yes, they are descended from German colonists in past centuries.

    When do you think blonde people like her appeared in Spain or Andalusia?

    Do you think that there were blonde, blue-eyed Subnordids in Andalusia in 200 AD? These hardly existed in Italy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    I have been in Andalusia a lot recently, and the only blondes us that I see are Northern European colonists!
    Usually from more recent centuries
    Genetics is way more complex than you think, native spaniards from any region can carry light feature genes with no recent northern european background and you're acting a bit delusional (dont feel offended, please).

    Moreover, visigoths always represented a minority in Spain, so their contribution is minor.
    Don't date short women if you don't want short kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoLady View Post
    When do you think blonde people like her appeared in Spain or Andalusia?

    She looks Visigoth or Vandal to me, logically from a more recent century.
    Do you think that Visigoths and Vandals in Spain bred only amongst themselves for 1600 years?

    And a lot of Germans did migrate to depopulated Andalusia in recent centuries.

    I am blonde Subnordid like her, Northern European,

    I have been in Andalusia a lot recently, and the only blondes us that I see are Northern Europeans, or descended from them,
    usually from more recent centuries.
    Where did blond people in Pakistan come from? Also, that is pure bullshit lol. I'm constantly in Andalusia and not even counting women I often see blond men. Also, you went as a tourist and you know just by looking at them that they're of recent northern European heritage and definitely can't be Indigenous? Makes a lot of sense, mam.

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