Evidence of Russian Activity in the U.S., and Against Americans

[Anglo-Celtic]

There are very few, even most brain dead boomers who associate modern Russia with Communism. I can understand when someone sees Russia as geopolitical enemy, but what does Russia and its system has to do with Communism? A regular Capitalist country. Seems like "Communism" is an abstract word for everything bad no matter what, a boogeyman some parents used to scare current American boomers with, so they wet their beds.

It applies to China, but "Russian commies" are like comfort food to people who live in the past in the era before the Berlin Wall fell ("that was a commie ruse to trick NATO" will be the response). Unfortunately, there probably are more communists in the DNC than there are in your motherland in 2024. Survivors, from communist and socialist oppressive governments, see red flags on the horizon for the USA if we don't have a huge course correction. I see more red flags than a May Day parade in Portland.

[#Oda#]

It applies to China, but "Russian commies" are like comfort food to people who live in the past in the era before the Berlin Wall fell ("that was a commie ruse to trick NATO" will be the response). Unfortunately, there probably are more communists in the DNC than there are in your motherland in 2024. Survivors, from communist and socialist oppressive governments, see red flags on the horizon for the USA if we don't have a huge course correction. I see more red flags than a May Day parade in Portland.

You won't believe how crazy your commie panic sounds from a European angle.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Whatever the media says, the boomer believes:

That's a great meme! We could add another flag to the mix, but that could cause a thread derailment as Frank and Kess could tell you. I'll leave it there. We need to focus on space based laser beams that target "vote blue" cat ladies (Putin's greatest foes in the new Cold War).

Boomers might buy what the paid liars are selling, but we can't single out one generation for naivety. Younger Millennials and Zoomers are "educated" by Marxist propagandists, and they're brainwashed by pop culture and Tik Tok, so they do their own versions of the Saint Vitus Dance. Of course, Generation X is impervious to that nonsense. It's good to see that the corporate media dinosaurs face extinction from the truth asteroid provided by real journalists.

I think that our four greatest threats are the border, the culture, the economy, and the wars. In fifth place is the brain-melting satellite ray targeting individuals who know and understand that things have not changed since 1989. The DNC MSM have been on this for over five years. Hence their stellar journalism that proved that Donald Trump is a puppet of commie Putin who likes to pee on Sealy Posturepedics in hotel rooms with Russian hookers.

[Anglo-Celtic]

You won't believe how crazy your commie panic sounds from a European angle.

It's not my commie panic unless you're talking about commie China and the Slow Joe regime. As for Europeans, glass houses come to mind.

[CosmoLady]

It's not my commie panic unless you're talking about commie China and the Slow Joe regime. As for Europeans, glass houses come to mind.

Ignore her, she is a shit-stirrer, she never contributes anything interesting or meaningful to any discussion.

She is always triggered by something, only jumps in to attack people without participating in the conversation.

[CosmoLady]

@ CosmoLady:

Evidence for a Russian "non-lethal acoustic" weapon:

What I said in a previous post in this thread:

You are making claims without evidence, while hypocritically insisting that I provide evidence for everything I say.

Congress has also been "investigating" UFOs and aliens and the JFK assassination for decades, and Congress has found nothing.
I have zero faith in Congress, as do 87% of Americans.

No doubt if a senator on the intelligence committee wants to "investigate" Bigfoot, you make a thread "Evidence of Bigfoot"?
Appeal to authority fallacy

The analogy is relevant because Russian Brain Beams are even more illogical and absurd than UFOs, aliens, and Bigfoot.

Evidence for Russia being a communist regime: see my thread Evidence that Putin is a Soviet Dictator

You never provide any evidence, your entire thread is bogus. You obviously do not know what communism is.

Decades of Cold War programming and hysteria, and you apparently do not know the definition of communism

The practical outcome of communism: taken together, the communist regimes of China, Russia and other countries have killed over 100 million people. That's the single most important thing.

What do the Soviet genocides of the 1920s-1940s have to do with Russian Brain Beams TODAY?

And the USSR disappeared 30 years ago.

What do the Chinese genocides of the 1950s-1960s have to do with Russian Brain Beams today?

You are not accusing the PRC anyway.

Who is Permitted to Judge Conduct in a War:
[LIST][*] In the Old Testament, chapter 18 of the Book of Ezekiel says that everyone is guilty only for their own sins, no one else's. Since I wasn't a soldier in any of those conflicts, I am not responsible for anything that happened there.[*] The Bible doesn't say that only heads of state are allowed to have an opinion about wars; therefore, laymen can hold opinions about them, just as they do about other things.

Of course you can have an opinion, as can I, but you have zero moral authority, total hypocrisy. (Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia)

The Donbas War: I would read and think about things said by third-party, objective news sources. Imo, Russian state news outlets are nothing but sources of Russian propaganda, and so I probably wouldn't read them. As for the Ukrainian change of government in 2014, that's none of Russia's business.

Start with Wikipedia, a pro-CIA, pro-Ukrainian source, which shows thousands of ethnic Russian civilians killed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas

[Smaland]

@ CosmoLady:

Claims and evidence:

1) A Russian acoustic weapon?

• What I said before:

  Before American prosecutors bring charges against an individual who might be convicted of a crime, first the police make an investigation. There isn't enough evidence for a conviction in the beginning, but the investigation continues. In the end, if there is enough evidence, the jury can bring a guilty verdict.

• The 60 Minutes episode is preliminary evidence. Since it might lead to a 'conviction', I’m not willing to dismiss it at this time.

2) Evidence that Putin is a Soviet Dictator

• There’s evidence there in the thread.
• On paper, the USSR did disappear in 1991. The news sources linked to in this thread are evidence that Putin has been creating a new Soviet Union.
• Evidence isn’t bogus just because someone doesn’t like it.

Moral authority to comment on wars: Since you support Russia in the war in Ukraine, how much moral authority do you have to give lectures on this subject?

The war in Donbas: I glanced at the summary section of the Wiki article. There was an actual war going on at the time, between the Russian army / pro-Russian separatists, and Ukraine. The summary says that 3,404 civilians were killed, but I didn't see anything about who was responsible, or under what circumstances the deaths occurred.

[CosmoLady]

1) A Russian acoustic weapon?

• What I said before:
• The 60 Minutes episode is preliminary evidence. Since it might lead to a 'conviction', I’m not willing to dismiss it at this time.

Again you refused to provide evidence, because there is none.

WORDS are not evidence of an attack by a Russian Brain Beam.

I cannot discuss with someone who abuses the meaning of words.

Evidence
noun
that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.

Normally when there is an attack, there is EVIDENCE of an attack.

And again, 39% of Americans do not believe Havana Syndrome is a foreign attack, down from 44% a year ago.
https://today.yougov.com/politics/ar...avana-syndrome

So obviously, the Havana Syndrome narrative is FAILING, because there is no convincing evidence for the American people.

2) Evidence that Putin is a Soviet Dictator

• There’s evidence there in the thread.
• On paper, the USSR did disappear in 1991. The news sources linked to in this thread are evidence that Putin has been creating a new Soviet Union.
• Evidence isn’t bogus just because someone doesn’t like it.

I looked, there is no evidence. Your entire thread is utter nonsense.

And you are using words incorrectly. I cannot discuss with someone who abuses the meaning of words.

Evidence does not depend on whether I like it or not.

Evidence
noun
that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.

You are stating an OPINION, not PROVING anything. Learn the difference please.

If you changed the words to say that Putin is a RUSSIAN dictator trying to create a RUSSIAN empire, that might make more sense.
Although Putin was elected by a majority of people, and this is NOT in doubt, unlike with Joe Biden.

Soviet
noun
(after the revolution) a higher council elected by a local council, being part of a hierarchy of soviets culminating in the Supreme Soviet.
adjective
of the Soviet Union

The essence of the SOVIET Union was COMMUNISM, as you know.
Russia was authoritarian before the Soviet Union, and is still authoritarian today. Authoritarianism is normal over there.
Russia has been an empire since the 16th century. Imperialism is normal over there.
The national territory IS a multiethnic empire with an authoritarian government, and has always been.

Communism
noun
1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

Moral authority to comment on wars: Since you support Russia in the war in Ukraine, how much moral authority do you have to give lectures on this subject?

I never claimed moral authority. I only refuted YOURS by pointing out YOUR hypocrisy.

The US has ZERO moral authority after the hundreds of thousands of civilians it has killed on other continents.

Thus, I never discuss foreign policy on a moral basis, especially with an American, it is pointless.

I am only mentioning the Russian side of the story, which makes a lot of sense to me.

The war in Donbas: I glanced at the summary section of the Wiki article. There was an actual war going on at the time, between the Russian army / pro-Russian separatists, and Ukraine. The summary says that 3,404 civilians were killed, but I didn't see anything about who was responsible, or under what circumstances the deaths occurred.

If you actually read about the Donbas War (2014-22),

you would know that the entire war happened in the ethnic Russian, pro-Russian part of Ukraine.
(same with the current war, mostly)

And you would also know that the Russian military DID NOT invade the Donbas before February 2022.

And the secession and war started after the democratically elected Ukrainian government was violently overthrown,
and ethnic Russian civilians were killed, with the open support of the US. (State Dept, Nuland, McCain, Blumenthal, etc.)

Thus:

The civilian casualties in the Donbas War were mostly ethnic Russians or pro-Russians killed by the Ukrainian military.

In the Wikipedia article, the UN Human Rights Commission says over 14,000 civilians were killed
https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default...orr%20EN_0.pdf

Ukraine resumed bombing Donbas civilians BEFORE the Russian invasion, though it is unclear who started the fighting.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ne-2022-02-19/
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/...0218-0009.html