Croatian man killed in Ireland "for speaking Croatian"

[oszkar07]

If there were not countless men visiting them, there would not be such a profession. As a side note.

There is a saying that it is the "oldest profession in the world."
I dont think anything will change anytime soon, and i doubt its a one way street as your comment implies despite your disaproval of their profession they probably dont want men to stop visiting them in the same way any person who runs any buisiness does not want there customers to go away.

Its funny and odd how some people always seem to put the responsibility of the existence of prostitutes on men or male customers. Another equally ridiculous counter argument would be to say " if more women gave it up for free there would not be any prostitutes".

Prostitutes dont just simply agree to have sex with a random man that offers them a transaction in the street but rather there is a whole deliberate calculated and orchestrated process of preparation and capitol that goes into promoting the Service and snaring prospective customers including ...Lingerie,Make up, Advertising with seductive photos and advertised Services,Flirtyness and Provocation is used -Prostitution is not random it is calculated and designed to a buisiness model.. .... IF YOU BUILD IT !

[Grace O'Malley]

There is a saying that it is the "oldest profession in the world."
I dont think anything will change anytime soon, and i doubt its a one way street as your comment implies despite your disaproval of their profession they probably dont want men to stop visiting them in the same way any person who runs any buisiness does not want there customers to go away.

Its funny and odd how some people always seem to put the responsibility of the existence of prostitutes on men or male customers. Another equally ridiculous counter argument would be to say " if more women gave it up for free there would not be any prostitutes".

Prostitutes dont just simply agree to have sex with a random man that offers them a transaction in the street but rather there is a whole deliberate calculated and orchestrated process of preparation and capitol that goes into promoting the Service and snaring prospective customers including ...Lingerie,Make up, Advertising with seductive photos and advertised Services,Flirtyness and Provocation is used -Prostitution is not random it is calculated and designed to a buisiness model.. .... IF YOU BUILD IT !

Whatever the situation is a dehumanising thing and it is a very risky business for women selling themselves. I don't think the women enjoy it as selling your body must be psychologically damaging. Anyway there is a lot of controversy about the topic. Like all these things it is morally degrading to the people involved.

[Insuperable]

There is a saying that it is the "oldest profession in the world."
I dont think anything will change anytime soon, and i doubt its a one way street as your comment implies despite your disaproval of their profession they probably dont want men to stop visiting them in the same way any person who runs any buisiness does not want there customers to go away.

Its funny and odd how some people always seem to put the responsibility of the existence of prostitutes on men or male customers. Another equally ridiculous counter argument would be to say " if more women gave it up for free there would not be any prostitutes".

Prostitutes dont just simply agree to have sex with a random man that offers them a transaction in the street but rather there is a whole deliberate calculated and orchestrated process of preparation and capitol that goes into promoting the Service and snaring prospective customers including ...Lingerie,Make up, Advertising with seductive photos and advertised Services,Flirtyness and Provocation is used -Prostitution is not random it is calculated and designed to a buisiness model.. .... IF YOU BUILD IT !

In the end all women are prostitutes and we all pay for sex in one way or the other.

[Grace O'Malley]

In the end all women are prostitutes and we all pay for sex in one way or the other.

That's not a healthy way to think. Do you think your mother was a prostitute? I know it is a waste of time having this discussion because you hate women but the problem is you if you think like that.

[Insuperable]

That's not a healthy way to think. Do you think your mother was a prostitute? I know it is a waste of time having this discussion because you hate women but the problem is you if you think like that.

I love wemen because my dick is not going to get sucked by itself.

Jokes aside, why mention my or any family when you know it's true. All men pay for sex in one way or the other.
Of course you won't say you agree so you have to go personal.

[oszkar07]

Whatever the situation is a dehumanising thing and it is a very risky business for women selling themselves. I don't think the women enjoy it as selling your body must be psychologically damaging. Anyway there is a lot of controversy about the topic. Like all these things it is morally degrading to the people involved.

That is one perspective.
That said , there are many jobs/professions that are very risky buisiness "Police officer", "Soldier", "MMA fighter", "working in a mine", there could be a long list and guess what many women work in all of those fields "by choice".

The seeing of Prostitutes as victims i suspect is legitimate especially and specifically to those who did not have a choice.

But applying the victim label to those who certainly have a choice i feel is perhaps in some respect disingenuous.

Firstly the fact is there exist many women who choose to work as a Prostitute probably formost because they can earn a lot of money from it.
However they can earn money from other jobs too and many have other jobs or have had them but they can earn more doing sex work.

Maybe many young men or women could prostitute themselves to older men or women and perhaps this might be financially lucrative.
Personally i couldn't do that despite the money.

But people are different by character perhaps there are other people that are more opportunistic than me that would prostitute themself to earn a lot of money.(people are different)... i would never wish to work as a paramedic but many people choose to do that work males and female "by choice"

Perhaps you may view what they do as dehumanising but that may be specific to your own feeling about it this may be your projection.
You rationalise for them based on your own feelings and perspective , they may see it differently ?

Most people who work in any field have periods time when they are annoyed with their job even at times saying they hate their job, but in reality if you have high class escorts with university degree and other work experience and good resumes but despite that they still by there own choice continue to work as prostitutes "sorry" but i fail to see them as victims if they in your or anyones books choose to victimise themselves for money well what can i say again it is there choice the same as you and i would have choices.
Some people in this world will sell there soull for money - remember what money is the root of - anyway people have already tried stopping hookers being hookers the evidence so far seems to be they dont wanna stop being able to be hookers when they want to be hookers.
Maybe everyone born to this world is a victim, a victim of lifes hard but we cant use that as an excuse for anything and everything ... or can we ?

[Grace O'Malley]

I love wemen because my dick is not going to get sucked by itself.

Jokes aside, why mention my or any family when you know it's true. All men pay for sex in one way or the other.
Of course you won't say you agree so you have to go personal.

Well you said it "In the end all women are prostitutes". So that's what you said. Of course I don't agree. What a completely dysfunctional way to think. You know that comment isn't true and have said it to get a reaction.

[CosmoLady]

That is one perspective.
That said , there are many jobs/professions that are very risky buisiness "Police officer", "Soldier", "MMA fighter", "working in a mine", there could be a long list and guess what many women work in all of those fields "by choice".

The seeing of Prostitutes as victims i suspect is legitimate especially and specifically to those who did not have a choice.

But applying the victim label to those who certainly have a choice i feel is perhaps in some respect disingenuous.

Firstly the fact is there exist many women who choose to work as a Prostitute probably formost because they can earn a lot of money from it.
However they can earn money from other jobs too and many have other jobs or have had them but they can earn more doing sex work.

Maybe many young men or women could prostitute themselves to older men or women and perhaps this might be financially lucrative.
Personally i couldn't do that despite the money.

But people are different by character perhaps there are other people that are more opportunistic than me that would prostitute themself to earn a lot of money.(people are different)... i would never wish to work as a paramedic but many people choose to do that work males and female "by choice"

Perhaps you may view what they do as dehumanising but that may be specific to your own feeling about it this may be your projection.
You rationalise for them based on your own feelings and perspective , they may see it differently ?

Most people who work have periods time when they are annoyed with their job even at times saying they hate it, but in reality if you have high class escorts with university degree and other work experience and good resumes but despite that they still by there own choice continue to work as prostitutes "sorry" but i fail to see them as victims if they in your or anyones books choose to victimise themselves for money well what can i say again it is there choice
the same as you and i would have choices.

Whatever the situation is a dehumanising thing and it is a very risky business for women selling themselves. I don't think the women enjoy it as selling your body must be psychologically damaging. Anyway there is a lot of controversy about the topic. Like all these things it is morally degrading to the people involved.

Supposedly a significant minority of prostitutes experience violence, and this is widely under-reported,
I have heard anywhere from 15-35% in surveys of legal prostitutes. Often the younger men are the most violent.

As the supply of prostitutes increases faster than demand,
due to legalisation or OnlyFans or Ukrainian refugees or whatever,
the price of sexual services will decrease,
and it will be more difficult for all but the "hottest" self-employed prostitutes to make a living.

So the market will inevitably move to cut costs:
this leads to more trafficking, exploitation and slavery by organised groups who can produce economies of scale.
This leads to "all-inclusive" deals and less power for prostitutes to negotiate.
This leads to greater male sense of entitlement (more competition benefits the customer not the prostitute).
This leads to a normalisation of abuse and degradation. and dehumanising and commodifying the prostitute.

The Nordic countries are correct to ban prostitution, as a public health, safety and decency matter.
This reduces the supply of prostitutes (forcing them underground under threat of legal sanction),
and thus reduces the total amount of suffering or trafficked prostitutes.

Banning prostitution is for the prostitute's own good,
and hopefully provides an incentive to make better life choices. This incentive is weak when prostitution is normalised.

[Grace O'Malley]

That is one perspective.
That said , there are many jobs/professions that are very risky buisiness "Police officer", "Soldier", "MMA fighter", "working in a mine", there could be a long list and guess what many women work in all of those fields "by choice".

The seeing of Prostitutes as victims i suspect is legitimate especially and specifically to those who did not have a choice.

But applying the victim label to those who certainly have a choice i feel is perhaps in some respect disingenuous.

Firstly the fact is there exist many women who choose to work as a Prostitute probably formost because they can earn a lot of money from it.
However they can earn money from other jobs too and many have other jobs or have had them but they can earn more doing sex work.

Maybe many young men or women could prostitute themselves to older men or women and perhaps this might be financially lucrative.
Personally i couldn't do that despite the money.

But people are different by character perhaps there are other people that are more opportunistic than me that would prostitute themself to earn a lot of money.(people are different)... i would never wish to work as a paramedic but many people choose to do that work males and female "by choice"

Perhaps you may view what they do as dehumanising but that may be specific to your own feeling about it this may be your projection.
You rationalise for them based on your own feelings and perspective , they may see it differently ?

Most people who work have periods time when they are annoyed with their job even at times saying they hate it, but in reality if you have high class escorts with university degree and other work experience and good resumes but despite that they still by there own choice continue to work as prostitutes "sorry" but i fail to see them as victims if they in your or anyones books choose to victimise themselves for money well what can i say again it is there choice
the same as you and i would have choices.

I didn't use the victim label. Of course that could be discussed but the fact of the matter is that buying a woman's body for sex is amoral in my view. I don't know how someone can think it is okay? Even if a woman is willing to do that it does not make it right. People sell their kidneys to get money but it doesn't make it right to engage in that. This is not even going into all the other issues that surround this seedy and disgusting trade.

Just think if you would like your daughter to become a prostitute. No parent that loves their child would ever want that for their beloved daughter.

Anyway people know my views on prostitution and pornography. Nothing good comes out of that sort of exploitation of people.

[Insuperable]

Well you said it "In the end all women are prostitutes". So that's what you said. Of course I don't agree. What a completely dysfunctional way to think. You know that comment isn't true and have said it to get a reaction.

Okay, all wemen except my mother. Happy?

Why don't you agree? I mean, it's true if you don't agree There are one-night sluts out there after all.