Croatian man killed in Ireland "for speaking Croatian"

[oszkar07]

Don't waste your time with Grace, she's been brainwashed by feminism and hence, lives in a bubble where men are hideous monsters (unless they are simps that is) and women are beautiful fairies made of light and marshmallows. What I always wonder is: if men are a bunch of disgusting monsters why feminists do not move to some desert place and start founding their own towns and cities? I mean if some fanatics like David Koresh or Jim Jones could, why can't feminists too? After all they claim to be the same or even superior to men.

Seemingly true

but there are the feminisits that follow Grace's feminism seeing men as objectifiers of women (when actually many women willingly objectify themselves)

Then there is the other feminists that say women should be empowered to do anything they want such as sex work or playboy centrefolds.

Even Feminists dont agree with each other !

[Aldaris]

Should it be banned in my oppinion ?

Banning it wont stop it, it seems to be one of those things that for whatever reason is deeply connected to the human condition as strange as that may sound it also seems to be true.

Of course it won't. Nobody here is naive enough to think so, but the same logic can be applied to most crimes. And while the governments in most countries have the means to fight it effectively, they just aren't taking action. Banning it is a necessary step for that fight to begin.

[#Oda#]

I never got impression Grace is some rabid feminist. She is most normal user on the entire forum.
If ayone is rabid in their gender wars here it is loonies like Insuperable and many other guys.

I agree completely.

[Insuperable]

I never got impression Grace is some rabid feminist. She is most normal user on the entire forum.
If ayone is rabid in their gender wars here it is loonies like Insuperable and many other guys.

Incal is this time indeed mistaken in thinking that Grace is a feminist, not to mention a rabid feminist. Btw, I only said what is true and what all wemen know themselves to be true. I dare you, I double dare you to tell me one thing I wrote you don't agree with!

[Voskos]

I personally don't have a problem with prostitutes, I have a disliking for the women who do it for free. what does this thread have to do with prostitution? It seems women can't hold themselves, it's always about their rights, even in a tragic thread about racism.

[Blondie]

where did I mention Swedish system.

How many glasses of Palinka did you drink just now ?

We are just talking about the topic right?

[oszkar07]

Of course it won't. Nobody here is naive enough to think so, but the same logic can be applied to most crimes. And while the governments in most countries have the means to fight it effectively, they just aren't taking action. Banning it is a necessary step for that fight to begin.

The most criminal aspect to it is when there is any lack of consent such as in the case of trafficking - coercian.

In cases where there is legitimate consent - the question of it being criminal can only really be argued if it is taking place in a jurisdiction
where it is not legal. Otherwise in the scenario of it being "consentual and legal" you then have only subjective societal views towards it and
seeing it as a crime as such would be questionable at best.

Then people may say , oh but even if its legal it might have criminal gangs connecting to it.

Same thing concerning connection of criminal gangs can be said about =

nightclubs
casinos
building industry
second hand car dealerships
real estate developers
tatoo parours
Gyms (particuliarly mixed martial art and boxing gyms)
so on and so fourth.

[Grace O'Malley]

Don't waste your time with Grace, she's been brainwashed by feminism and hence, lives in a bubble where men are hideous monsters (unless they are simps that is) and women are beautiful fairies made of light and marshmallows. What I always wonder is: if men are a bunch of disgusting monsters why feminists do not move to some desert place and start founding their own towns and cities? I mean if some fanatics like David Koresh or Jim Jones could, why can't feminists too? After all they claim to be the same or even superior to men.

I follow no systematic way of thought I have my own mind. I'm pretty far from feminism as I believe in quite traditional values. This is from life's experience and no I don't think women are superior to men but there are a load of men that have very sexist and negative views of women. But go ahead if you can't discuss topics without labelling a person or actually trying to discredit the person instead of discussing the topic. What does that say about the person who instead of being able to discuss the topic attacks the person?

No I'm not a feminist and I find that really quite funny. I don't know what is wrong with many people on here but whenever I discuss topics they decide they want to pigeon hole me as something just from an opinion on a particular subject. I've been called right wing, left wing, feminist, a bleeding heart liberal. I can't be all those things?

Anyway true to form some people who are incapable of discussing a topic in a civilised fashion will start attacking the person. Many men are very much against prostitution. I suppose they can only be feminists. I just have respect for people's dignity which is why I find prostitution and porn an affront to human dignity. I'm against commercial surrogacy as well and also the trans gender industry where they advocate mutilating children and adults. I don't believe you can change sex.

I believe men and women are different but both have their strengths. I'm not anti male at all. I had a wonderful father who was the best role model anyone could have. He was a religious but very decent man who did not have these negative and sexist attitudes to women. I know personally many wonderful and decent men. You can decide I'm a feminist if you want and I could call you some names but I don't understand how people can't discuss these topics in a civilised manner. I obviously have very different views to you as I find paying for a man or woman's body for sex morally wrong and degrading. No one can honestly say it isn't.

Anyway go now and discuss me and not the topic of discussion so what does that say about people that do that?

[Grace O'Malley]

Seemingly true

but there are the feminisits that follow Grace's feminism seeing men as objectifiers of women (when actually many women willingly objectify themselves)

Then there is the other feminists that say women should be empowered to do anything they want such as sex work or playboy centrefolds.

Even Feminists dont agree with each other !

Maybe the flaw is calling every "woman" that disagrees with your view "a feminist".

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

If I was a pimp I'd own a restaurant and have the client buy my prostitute dinner and leave a very big tip for the staff (which is just payment for sex). What they do after they leave the restaurant is between them...

Oh, man... the stuff I think about... lolz....