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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Why wouldn't I believe a recent returnee from Ireland? If fits with what others say. Ireland has white trash problem.
    Ignore him; according to him, witness testimony is not evidence. He’s just as smart as Oliver109 and Septentrion are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    There are very few Russians in Ireland and those who fled in 2022 beginning of the war didn't go to Ireland as it's expensive and extremely hard to legally stay there.
    To westerners any Slav is "Russian". In US everyone tought I am Russian. They don't really know geography well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Because one person's perspective is limited. People have their biases. They have their issues.

    Who are these others you speak of?

    What I would do to see if Ireland has a White trash problem is check how common are disorderly conduct arrests.

    You say Irish have a monopoly on crime in their own country (indicating higher rates of crime than foreigners). That's easy to find out if you can look at their crime statistics and if it's separated by race/ethnicity group.
    I have also one person in family that returned from Ireland and I heard many similar stories about Irish Travellers. Yes, people have biases.

    But also, we are very safe country, I was never afarid on the streets of Zagreb, so from our perspective...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvanas View Post
    I have also one person in family that returned from Ireland and I heard many similar stories about Irish Travellers. Yes, people have biases.

    But also, we are very safe country, I was never afarid on the streets of Zagreb, so from our perspective...
    Whole Ex-YU/Balkan is 100000 times safer than majority of Western/Northern Europe, Montenegro has higher crime level but it barely affects random people, that's stats of interclan/gang troubles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    My friend from Moscow who moved from Moscow to Cyprus with his Greek mom in early 2000s used to work as bouncer in his 20s, he had a lot of stories with drunk Brits and Irishmen, dunno how it's now, but back then Cyprus was a place where all the trash from the Isles massively came to drink non stop.
    The British do have a terrible reputation for drunkeness and violence. It's a constant complaint where ever they go.

    Irish don't but it could be that people on the street in foreign countries can't tell the difference. They just see and hear an idiot who is speaking English that sounds different from American and so assume British. I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarface F View Post
    Irish wealth is very recent and their population was poor and quite neglected until recently. However it's unfair to equalize behaviour of Irish Travellers with average Irish people. Settled Irish want nothing to do with them.
    There is a lot of truth in that: due to its longstanding poverty and backwardness, the Irish diaspora per capita puts that of many developing countries to shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kess View Post
    Ignore him; according to him, witness testimony is not evidence. He’s just as smart as Oliver109 and Septentrion are.
    I don't want to argue with Colonel, but my friend had no reason to lie and it fits general impression other people have. He enjoyed his time in Ireland anyway and never had a problem personally. On reddit you can read how native Irish gangs terrorize Dublin area and how it became a problem especially since covid.

    I would assume quite a few of them are Travellers who are violent and criminal population that is treated by law with "kid gloves".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Whole Ex-YU/Balkan is 100000 times safer than majority of Western/Northern Europe, Montenegro has higher crime level but it barely affects random people, that's stats of interclan/gang troubles.
    Last year Croatia was statistically safest country in Europe to walk alone at night, and Slovenia was second:

    https://total-croatia-news.com/news/...%20in%20Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvanas View Post
    I have also one person in family that returned from Ireland and I heard many similar stories about Irish Travellers. Yes, people have biases.

    But also, we are very safe country, I was never afarid on the streets of Zagreb, so from our perspective...
    Irish Travellers are known for their violence but it's a tiny minority of the population. I wouldn't think I need to take precautions if I go to Ireland based on such a tiny portion of the population as I would going to India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvanas View Post
    I have also one person in family that returned from Ireland and I heard many similar stories about Irish Travellers. Yes, people have biases.

    But also, we are very safe country, I was never afarid on the streets of Zagreb, so from our perspective...
    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Whole Ex-YU/Balkan is 100000 times safer than majority of Western/Northern Europe, Montenegro has higher crime level but it barely affects random people, that's stats of interclan/gang troubles.
    I read stories from western foreigners living in Croatia, including British, that it's unimaginable to them to walk alone in the park at night in their countries. In their countries people avoid parks at night while in Croatia women can walk at night alone without any problem. Was that because of their own low class or foreigners I wouldn't know.
    The same thing is in Serbia or Bosnia.

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