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Thread: Phenotypically were Anglo-Saxons closer to the Irish than to the English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by looney_tunes View Post
    Although the Irish don't descend from Anglo-Saxons, phenotypically were Anglo-Saxons closer to the Irish than to the English?
    The closer proximity of the Anglo-Saxon average to the Irish average is purely coincidental, given that both have slightly more Steppe and less EEF than the English average. However, this does not imply in any way that the Irish are more Anglo-Saxon than the English. The fact that there have also been migratory movements from the continent to England in the last 1000 years further complicates the picture.

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    Distance to:	England_Anglo-Saxon
    0.00841285	Norwegian
    0.00989085	Danish
    0.01055701	Icelandic
    0.01446575	Scottish
    0.01466522	Orcadian
    0.01519257	Irish
    0.01672571	Dutch
    0.01826060	English
    0.01844428	Shetlandic
    0.01899023	Welsh
    0.02023798	Swedish
    0.02062570	English_Cornwall
    0.02598989	German_Hamburg
    0.02635018	French_Brittany
    0.03047649	Afrikaner
    0.03071103	German







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    Quote Originally Posted by fromjutt View Post
    this is not as extensive as this does not cover the samples specifically from early anglo saxon settlers from around 500-early 700, those samples are closest to modern day danes, norweigans and dutch or icelandics, not modern day English, also g25 also says they are closest to scandanvians and dutch in comparison to the irish
    Did you think that no one will check your false claim that the Anglo-Saxons are closer to the Dutch than to the Irish in Global 25?

    Distance to: England_Saxon
    0.01553202 Irish
    0.01776189 Dutch

    Distance to: England_Saxon.SG
    0.01411547 Irish
    0.01774672 Dutch

    Distance to: England_EarlyMedieval_Saxon
    0.01643549 Irish
    0.01837034 Dutch

    Distance to: England_EarlyMedieval_Saxon.SG
    0.03036594 Irish
    0.03425897 Dutch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    No phenotypically the Anglo - Saxons are of Germanic cast ( Nordids with a good tendency for blonde hair and blue eyes). Genetically both the Irish and Anglo-Saxons are very Northern European. They both have less genes from non - Northern European origin.
    Change the NordiDs with NordiCs and we're good. Take a stroll through Lower Saxony (who happens to be the direct descendants of the Anglo Saxons) and you'll find a huge amount of CMs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    No phenotypically the Anglo - Saxons are of Germanic cast ( Nordids with a good tendency for blonde hair and blue eyes). Genetically both the Irish and Anglo-Saxons are very Northern European. They both have less genes from non - Northern European origin.
    We on the continent are of course much prettier than the island Saxons

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    Quote Originally Posted by #Oda# View Post
    We on the continent are of course much prettier than the island Saxons
    Rurbish lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    Rurbish lol
    That was ofc half kidding, but only half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromjutt View Post
    hahahahahahahahhahah, youll never win



    Distance to: England_EarlyMedieval_Saxon.SG
    0.02366809 Norwegian
    0.03036594 Irish


    Distance to: Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval
    0.01039785 Norwegian
    0.01406094 Irish



    Distance to: Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval.SG
    0.02832531 Norwegian
    0.03394553 Irish



    Distance to: Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval
    0.01855115 Norwegian
    0.02544847 Irish



    Distance to: Germany_Schortens_Saxon_EMedieval
    0.02259301 Norwegian
    0.02487332 Irish


    "Many of the Anglo-Saxon samples appeared closer to modern Dutch and Danish people than the Iron Age Britons did."

    they will never look irish
    Irish though still look Northwestern European. It's not like they look like some outlier population. They are just very Isles in looks which is understandable.




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    Quote Originally Posted by fromjutt View Post
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    Distance to: England_EarlyMedieval_Saxon.SG
    0.02366809 Norwegian
    0.03036594 Irish


    Distance to: Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval
    0.01039785 Norwegian
    0.01406094 Irish



    Distance to: Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval.SG
    0.02832531 Norwegian
    0.03394553 Irish



    Distance to: Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval
    0.01855115 Norwegian
    0.02544847 Irish



    Distance to: Germany_Schortens_Saxon_EMedieval
    0.02259301 Norwegian
    0.02487332 Irish


    "Many of the Anglo-Saxon samples appeared closer to modern Dutch and Danish people than the Iron Age Britons did."

    they will never look irish
    I had no problem with what you said about Norwegians. But you also claimed that Global 25 says that the Anglo-Saxons are closer to the Dutch than to the Irish which is false. There is nothing to discuss about Norwegians anymore other than that they themselves are closer to the Irish than to the Dutch.

    Distance to: Norwegian
    0.01629774 Irish
    0.01641341 Dutch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Irish though still look Northwestern European. It's not like they look like some outlier population. They are just very Isles in looks which is understandable.
    Do you know who looks most typical Irish to me? It's Colm Meaney from Star Trek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #Oda# View Post
    Do you know who looks most typical Irish to me? It's Colm Meaney from Star Trek.
    lol

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