Do you support the existence of the State of Israel?

[Hurrem sultana]

I had to vote No...because I do not support the state of Israel in its current incarnation. Only a two-state solution could change things, IMO

I WOULD support the state of Israel if the land got divvied up accordingly and the other portion called Palestine, a sovereign state with all the same rights as Israel.

I support an official *homeland* for the Jews AND the Palestinians

Oh, and as Colourblind mentioned, I believe Israel needs to stop sucking off the teet of the United States and Western Europe.

Agreed

[GeistFaust]

No they should not on the grounds that others have owned the land and they do not own it. If we are going to give land which is supposed to belong to Arab and other like Semites to Israel's just because they had about 2000 years is obscene. Its like giving the land of North America back to the Native Americans because they used to own it. Might is right and it is that which guides the affairs of life both in the secular and spiritual domains of society.


It is terrible to see that the Jews have manipulated the west into thinking they needed a state for themselves. They should be quite comfortable in those countries and nations which they are trying to usurp and undermine. They have caused more disorder and chaos in the Middle East then would have been caused if they had stayed out. They were just looking for trouble by going into the Middle East and establishing a "state" there.


They are criminals who hide behind all that is good and beautiful to attack that which is good and beautiful. They are a plastic and fake people to some extent or another with a few exceptions. It would be best served if their state was removed and perhaps they were moved to Siberia, A Pacific Island, or to Madagascar.

[Joe McCarthy]

Oh, and as Colourblind mentioned, I believe Israel needs to stop sucking off the teet of the United States and Western Europe.

I'm unsure what this means but it's clear Israel can't survive without Western assistance, so it's rather useless to throw up impossible conditions for 'support'.

[Odoacer]

No they should not on the grounds that others have owned the land and they do not own it. If we are going to give land which is supposed to belong to Arab and other like Semites to Israel's just because they had about 2000 years is obscene. Its like giving the land of North America back to the Native Americans because they used to own it. Might is right and it is that which guides the affairs of life both in the secular and spiritual domains of society.

By the same token, Geist, the Israelis have conquered & held onto the land they now possess. Right of conquest.

[GeistFaust]

It might be of valuable purport with the direction in which America is heading to stick Israel somewhere inside of the U.S. Afterall we are one of their biggest supporters and without us they would assuredly decay.

I think it would be a harbinger of things to come and signify the great extent to which America has strayed and abandoned the dreams of the founding fathers for this country.

I think it would be appropriate to stick Israel somewhere near Washington D.C. instead of trying to cover and hide over the fact the Jews basically run affairs in Washington be they political, financial, or legal to some extent or another.

[GeistFaust]

By the same token, Geist, the Israelis have conquered & held onto the land they now possess. Right of conquest.

Yes, they did but they did so unfarily with the help of outside forces. They have considered to use their right of conquest in maligned ways.

If Israel wanted to have their lands back truly they should have been made to fight for them by themselves. Instead everyone had to give into the whims of the Jewish secularists to implement the state of Israel, maligned by the sickly and malacious forms of pity and compassion.

The Jews of Israel tend to be of the secularist vibe which makes them an enemy to the Western world and to all that is spiritual and sublime.

[Svipdag]

Yes. De facto, the issue was settled by winning wars with their neighbors over it. Inasmuch as the issue was settled by warfare, the Israelis hold Israel by right of conquest.


"J'y suis et j'y reste" - General MacMahon

[Hurrem sultana]

I was always interested how around 20 million people can be so powerful,they basically control the US and most of the media.

[Morrigan]

I do since brown people are much, much worse.

Besides, survival of the fittest and all that jazz.

[StonyArabia]

Besides, survival of the fittest and all that jazz.

Without Western support, Israel would have vanished to thin air. It's not at all a survival of the fittest. If they were capable of doing it themselves than yes it would have been the case to some degree, but still unethical in the way it was formed.