Latin - what does it sound like

[Leliana]

Interesting...this is the same prayer in cimbric language spoken in Veneto.

"Ugnar Bàatar, ba pist in Hümmel, zai gahòlighet dar dain naamo,
as khèmme dar dain Raick, zai gamàcht bia du bill, bia in Hümmel, azò in d'Eerda.
Ghitzich hòite 'z ùgnar proat bon allen taaghen, borghit ozàndarn d'ügnarn zünte bia bràndare borghéban bèar hatzich offèndart, mach as bar net bàllan in tentziùum, ma liberàrzich bon allen bèetighen. Amen."

Yes, the Cimbrians are very old Bavarians who had no contact with the outside world in their valleys for centuries over centuries! A very rustic language but I can understand parts.

[Sylvanus]

Interesting...this is the same prayer in cimbric language spoken in Veneto.

"Ugnar Bàatar, ba pist in Hümmel, zai gahòlighet dar dain naamo,
as khèmme dar dain Raick, zai gamàcht bia du bill, bia in Hümmel, azò in d'Eerda.
Ghitzich hòite 'z ùgnar proat bon allen taaghen, borghit ozàndarn d'ügnarn zünte bia bràndare borghéban bèar hatzich offèndart, mach as bar net bàllan in tentziùum, ma liberàrzich bon allen bèetighen. Amen."

It seems boarisch.

[Raikaswinþs]

Despite the fact that it's in fact the ancestor of Italian.
The Romance langauges (Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Catalan, Occitan, Romanian) ALL evolved from Latin.
So, Latin is basically Ancient Italian

modern researchers argue that Latin isn´t actually the ancestor of all those romance languages ad hoc , but a related yet different italic dialect.

Many argue today that the Latin Vulgaris from which romance languages source weren´t just a group of low brow latian sociolects but a group of actual italic languages more related with each other than they actualy were to Latin itself.

The only language hence that Latin fathered was church Latin, which was indeed (unlike Latin vulgaris), a diastratic variety of the standard Latin.

If you ask me whether I add to that stream of thinking,I wouldn´t be able to adhere just yet, but I can only tell that, as a Latrin Vulgaris native speaker, I find French, Catalonian , Portuguese and other Latin Vulgaris tongues to be familiar, yet the structure , sintax and grammar of Latin itself feels as alien as that of German, despite the closeness in vocabulary and . likely, phonetics.

[HungAryan]

modern researchers argue that Latin isn´t actually the ancestor of all those romance languages ad hoc , but a related yet different italic dialect.

Many argue today that the Latin Vulgaris from which romance languages source weren´t just a group of low brow latian sociolects but a group of actual italic languages more related with each other than they actualy were to Latin itself.

The only language hence that Latin fathered was church Latin, which was indeed (unlike Latin vulgaris), a diastratic variety of the standard Latin.

If you ask me whether I add to that stream of thinking,I wouldn´t be able to adhere just yet, but I can only tell that, as a Latrin Vulgaris native speaker, I find French, Catalonian , Portuguese and other Latin Vulgaris tongues to be familiar, yet the structure , sintax and grammar of Latin itself feels as alien as that of German, despite the closeness in vocabulary and . likely, phonetics.

Just to mind you, there is a thing called substrate, and also superstrate.
France and Portugal were originally inhabited by Celts, and Spain was inhabited by both Celts and Iberians (proto-Basques?). The Spanish language has a lot of Basque heritage.

After the Romans conquered those areas, they forced the original inhabitants to speak Latin. However, after the fall of the Roman Empire, literacy fell drastically as well.
Germanic tribes occupied those areas, and the Germanic Frankish langauge influenced French pronounciation. Visigothic had a minor impact on Spanish vocabulary, allegedly.

Latin was best preserved in areas where it was never even spoken in the first place: like England, Germany and Hungary. Church Latin was spoken only by the Clergymen and the nobility.
This meant the divorce of Church Latin and Vulgar Latin, which first split up into many regional dialects, and then those dialects evolved into separate languages, namely, the Romance languages.

[Comte Arnau]

modern researchers argue that Latin isn´t actually the ancestor of all those romance languages ad hoc , but a related yet different italic dialect.

Many argue today that the Latin Vulgaris from which romance languages source weren´t just a group of low brow latian sociolects but a group of actual italic languages more related with each other than they actualy were to Latin itself.

The only language hence that Latin fathered was church Latin, which was indeed (unlike Latin vulgaris), a diastratic variety of the standard Latin.

If you ask me whether I add to that stream of thinking,I wouldn´t be able to adhere just yet, but I can only tell that, as a Latrin Vulgaris native speaker, I find French, Catalonian , Portuguese and other Latin Vulgaris tongues to be familiar, yet the structure , sintax and grammar of Latin itself feels as alien as that of German, despite the closeness in vocabulary and . likely, phonetics.

Interesting, although I find the theory a bit far-fetched, tbh.

It could well be, though, that the 'simplification' or change in structure of Vulgar Latin with regard to Classical Latin had been heavily influenced by closely related Italic tongues. To a certain point, we could relate it to the process undergone by English inside Britain.

[Volkodav]

The Trojans were in fact Thracians and they spoked a language similar to the Dacians, and Aeneas who escaped and created Rome, he was from the north, probably Dacian, and so the ancient Latin language has derived from a Dacian Dialect.

I consider to be wrong to take credit for my ancestor's great deeds, so please do not insist on thanking me.

[Peyrol]

About 30% of latin vocabulary is, really, etrurian.

Btw, the italic languages related to latin were siculian, oscan, venetic and phalisic. All disappeared during roman expansion in the peninsula.

Exaple of oscan language:

ekkum[svaí píd herieset
trííbarak[avúm tereí púd
liímítú[m] pernúm [púís
herekleís fíísnú mefi[ú
íst, ehtrad feíhúss pú[s
herekleís fíísnam amfr
et, pert víam pússtíst
paí íp íst, pústin slagím
senateís suveís tangi
núd tríbarakavúm lí
kítud. íním íúk tríba
rakkiuf pam núvlanús
tríbarakattuset íúk trí
barakkiuf íním úíttiuf
abellanúm estud. avt
púst feíhúís pús físnam am
fret, eíseí tereí nep abel
lanús nep núvlanús pídum
tríbarakattíns. avt the
savrúm púd eseí tereí íst,
pún patensíns, múíníkad ta[n
ginúd patensíns, íním píd e[íseí
thesavreí púkkapíd ee[stit
a]íttíúm alttram alttr[ús
h]erríns. avt anter slagím
a]bellanam íním núvlanam
s]úllad víú uruvú íst . edú
e]ísaí víaí mefiaí teremen
n]iú staíet.

Only 25-30 words of the total 250 circa are recognizable as latin-related.

[HungAryan]

The Trojans were in fact Thracians and they spoked a language similar to the Dacians, and Aeneas who escaped and created Rome, he was from the north, probably Dacian, and so the ancient Latin language has derived from a Dacian Dialect.

- There is no evidence that the Thracians and Dacians spoke similar langauges, because none of them had written records
- Latin was an Italic language, related to Faliscan, Oscan, Umbrian and Venetic
- There is no historical evidence that support the mythology Romans used to originate themselves from.
- The Trojans were possibly related to Greeks or Hittites, but not Thracians. The Trojan language could have been Non-Indoeuropean as well. Read further here.

[Peyrol]

Example of latin word of etruscan/etrurian origin:

-Persona (person), from the etrurian "Fersu"
-Populus (people) from " *poplos"
-Mundus (world) from "munthu"
-Miles (Military)
-Atrium (same in english)

And many others.

[Volkodav]

- There is no evidence that the Thracians and Dacians spoke similar langauges, because none of them had written records
- Latin was an Italic language, related to Faliscan, Oscan, Umbrian and Venetic
- There is no historical evidence that support the mythology Romans used to originate themselves from.
- The Trojans were possibly related to Greeks or Hittites, but not Thracians. The Trojan language could have been Non-Indoeuropean as well. Read further here.

- wikipedia = shite
- Russian arheologists discovered ancient armure for women, that means that the Amazonian tribe is real => Greeks were right => Greek mytology is real => Aeneas escaped from Troy and created Rome, also his predecesors are the Julii family
- Troy was another word for Tracya, at a time when the world (Europa) was inhabited only by the Greeks (all Mediteranean) and Celts (all the inland), thracians were part of the great celtic family.