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    Quote Originally Posted by Minesweeper View Post
    Ushtari, who cares where Albanians lived then! You haven't lived in Kosovo( only small number in Metohija). That's the essence. Albanians started to settle Kosovo in 16 century and finaly took over majority after Great migrations. It is very possible that some christian Albanians participated in Great migrations and what about it?

    Serbs left Kosovo, you cаme down! Over and out!

    Dusan?!

    History doesn't begin in VII century, you analphabet. lol


    History

    The Dardanians are first mentioned in 4th century BC. when their king Bardyllis succeeded into bringing various tribes in a single organization. Under his leadership Dardanians defeated several times Macedonians and Molossians. At this time they were strong enough to rule Macedonia through a puppet king in 392-391 BC and their continuous invasions forced a later Macedonian king to pay them a tribute in 372 BC In 385-384 we see them in alliance with Dionyssius defeating Molossians in a battle killing up to 15,000 Molossian soldiers and ruling their territory for a short period. They returned raiding the Molossians in 360. In 359 BC Dardanians under Bardyllis won a decisive battle against a Macedonian king Perdiccas III by killing the Macedonian king himself and 4,000 of his soldiers, and occupied the cities of upper Macedonia.[17][18]
    Following the disastrous defeat of Macedonians by Dardanians, when king Philip took control of the Macedonian throne in 358, he reaffirmed the treaty with Dardanians marrying the Illyrian princess Audata, probably the daughter or the niece of Bardyllis.[19] This gave Philip valuable time to gather its forces and to defeat Dardanians still under Bardyllis in the decisive Erigon Valley battle by killing about 7,000 of them eliminating the Dardanian menace for some time.[20][21]
    In 334 BC under the lead of Cleitus the son of Bardyllis, Dardanians in alliance with other Illyrian tribes, of the Taulanti under Glaukias and Autariate, attacked Macedonia which was this time under Alexander the Great. The Dardanians managed to capture some cities but were eventually defeated later by Alexander's forces [22][23]
    In winter 280-279 BC when Celts began invaded Macedonia, the Dardanian king offered to help Macedonians with 20,000 soldiers, but they were refused by Macedonian king Ptolemy Keraunos, eventually contributing to his defeat and consequent death.[24][25][26] Unlike Macedonia, Dardanians didn't suffer much the Celtic invasion and Dardanian forces attacked them while they were returning north.
    Dardanians were a constant threat to the Macedonian kingdom. In 230 under Longarus[27] they captured Bylazora from Paionians [28] and in 229 they attacked again Macedonia defeating in an important battle Macedonian forces under Demetrius II.[29] In this period their influence on the region grow and some other Illyrian tribes defected Teuta joining Dardanians under Longarus, forcing Teuta to call off her expedition forces in Epirus.[30] When Philip V rose to the Macedonian throne skirmishing with Dardanians began in 220-219 BC and he managed to capture Bylazora from them in 217 BC. Skirmishes continued in 211 and in 209 when a force of Dardanians under Aeropus, probably a pretender to the Macedonian throne, captured Lychnidus and looted Macedonia taking 20.000 prisoners and retreating before Philip's forces could reach them.[31] In 201 Bato of Dardania along with Pleuratus the Illyrian and Amynander king of Athamania, cooperated with Roman consul Sulpicius in his expedition against Philip V.[32] Being always under the menace of Dardanian attacks on Macedonia, around 183 BC Philip V made an alliance with Bastarnae and invited them to settle in Polog, the region of Dardania closest to Macedonia.[33] A joint campaign of Bastarnae and Macedonians against Dardanians was organized but Philip V died and Perseus of Macedon withdrew its forces from the campaign. Bastarnae crossed the Danube in huge numbers and although they didn't met the Macedonians, they continued the campaign. Some 30,000 Bastarnae under the command of Clondicus, seems to have defeated the Dardanians[34] but eventually they returned home and the plan of Philip V failed. In 177 BC, Dardanians sent an report to Roman Senate, accusing Perseus of Macedon for being again in alliance with Bastarnae against Dardanians, but the Roman investigating commission failed to find support for such accusations.[35]
    In 88 BC, they invaded the Roman province of Macedonia together with the Scordisci and the Maedi.[36]
    Polybius[37] writes of an event in which the Dardani ask for Roman aid against their enemies.
    When the Rhodian envoys arrived in Rome the Senate, after listening to their address, deferred its answer. Meanwhile the Dardanian envoys came with reports as to the number of the Bastarnae, the size of their men, and their courage in the field.They gave information also of the treacherous practices of Perseus and the Gauls, and said that they were more afraid of him than of the Bastarnae, and therefore begged the help of the Romans. The report of the Dardani being supported by that of the Thessalian envoys who arrived at that time, and who also begged for help, the Senators determined to send some commissioners to see with their own eyes the truth of these reports; and they accordingly at once appointed and despatched Aulus Postumius, accompanied by some young men.
    In AD 6, they were conquered by Rome and became part of the province of Moesia Superior (corresponding to present-day Serbia, northern fringes of Macedonia and northern Bulgaria). According to Strabo, they were divided into two sub-groups, the Galabri and the Thunaki.[38]
    Dardania was conquered in AD 6 by Gaius Scribonius Curio and included into the Roman Empire, the Latin language was soon adopted as the main language of the tribe as many other conquered and Romanized.[39] At first, Dardania was not a separate Roman province, but was a region in the province of Moesia Superior in AD 87.[40][41] Emperor Diocletian later (284) made Dardania into a separate [42] province with its capital at Naissus (Niš). During the Byzantine administration (in the 6th century), there was a Byzantine province of Dardania that included cities of Ulpiana, Scupi, Stobi, Justiniana Prima, and others.

    Rulers and nobles

    Bardyllis[49] of the Dardani from 385 BC -358 BC
    Audata probably daughter of Bardyllis and wife of Philip II married to him after the battle of 358.[50]
    Cleitus the Illyrian son of Bardyllis, 4th century BC[51]
    Bardyllis II probably Cleitus son, 4th century BC[52]
    Bircenna granddaughter of Cleitus[53] and daughter of Bardyllis II.[54] She was a wife of Pyrrhus of Epirus.
    Longarus[55] of the Dardani father of Bato
    Bato of Dardania[56] of the Dardani son of Longarus

    Dardanian Kingdom
    The domain of the Dardanian kings was made up of many[57] tribes. The first and most prominent king of the Dardani was Bardyllis[49] who ruled from 385 BC to 358 BC. He was perhaps succeeded by Grabos (358 BC - 356 BC)[58][59] that may have been[60] Bardyllis's son. Little is known about Bardyllis II[61] (4th century BC) Bardyllis's son. Cleitus the Illyrian[61] (4th century BC) was his son. Tribal chiefs Longarus and his son Bato of Dardania took part in the wars[56] against Romans and Macedonians. The Dardanians, in all their history, always[62] had separate domains from the rest of the Illyrians.

    Roman Dardania

    During the administrative reforms of Diocletian (244 - 311) and Constantine I (272 – 337), the Diocese of Moesia was created, encompassing most of the central Balkans and the Greek peninsula. After a few years, however, the diocese was split in two, forming the Diocese of Macedonia and the Diocese of Dacia, encompassing the provinces of Dacia Mediterranea, Moesia Inferior, Dardania, Praevalitana and Dacia Ripensis.
    Since 238, Moesia was constantly invaded or raided by the Carpi, and the Goths, who had already invaded Moesia in 250. Hard pressed by the Huns, the Goths again crossed the Danube during the reign of Valens (376) and with his permission settled in Moesia.
    Late Roman[63] Dardania did not include the eastern part of the Dardania of Aurelian.

    Byzantine Dardania
    The area remained part of the Byzantine empire until the late early 7th century when the Slavic migration destroyed Byzantine authority in most of the Balkan peninsula. Since then Dardania ceased to exist as separate administrative entity.

    Cities
    Dardania's largest towns by the time it was part of the Roman province of Moesia Superior were Ulpiana, Therranda, Vicianum, Skopi,[64] Vindenis, and Velanis. By this time Naissus[65] (a previously Celtic settlement) was the province's most important city.The Romans had organized a mining town municipium Dardanicum[66] (in modern Socanica near the Ibar valley) was connected with the workings (metalla Dardanica[66]). Dacians[67] lived in Dardania in their city Quemedava.

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    ^ Latin Dictionary
    ^ Wilkes, J. J. The Illyrians, 1992, ISBN 0631198075, Page 85, "... Whether the Dardanians were an Illyrian or a Thracian people has been much debated and one view suggests that the area was originally populated with Thracians who where then exposed to direct contact with illyrians over a long period..."
    ^ The central Balkan tribes in pre-Roman times: Triballi, Autariatae, Dardanians, Scordisci and Moesians, Amsterdam 1978, by Fanula Papazoglu, ISBN 9025607934, page 131., "the Dardanians ... living in the frontiers of the Illyrian and the Thracian worlds retained their individuality and, alone among the peoples of that region succeeded in maintaining themselves as an ethnic unity even when they were militarily and politically subjected by the Roman arms [...] and when at the end of the ancient world, the Balkans were involved in far-reaching ethnic perturbations, the Dardanians, of all the Central Balkan tribes, played the greatest part in the genesis of the new peoples who took the place of the old"
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    ^ The Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium (3-Volume Set) by Alexander P. Kazhdan,1991,page 248,"... were well fortified. In the 6th and 7th C. the romanized Thraco-Illyrian population was forced to settle in the mountains; they reappear ..."
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    ^ The central Balkan tribes in pre-Roman times: Triballi, Autariatae ... by Fanula Papazoglu,1978,ISBN-9025607934,page 445,"The assumption that the Dardanian kingdom was composed of a considerable number of tribes and tribal groups, finds confirmation in Strabo's statement about"
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    ^ The Greek world, 479-323 BC by Simon Hornblower,2002,ISBN-0415163269,page 272
    ^ The Illyrians by J. J. Wilkes, 1992, ISBN 0631198075, p. 121,"The Illyrians of Grabus are unlikely to have been the subjects of Bardyllis defeated only two years earlier though some have suggested Grabus was his son and succesor [sic?]"
    ^ a b "The Journal of Hellenic Studies by Society for the Promotion of Hellenic Studies (London, England)", 1973, p. 79. Cleitus was evidently the son of Bardylis II the grandson of the very old Bardylis who had fallen in battle against Phillip II in 385 BC.
    ^ The central Balkan tribes in pre-Roman times: Triballi, Autariatae, Dardanians, Scordisci and Moesians by Fanula Papazoglu,ISBN 9025607934,page 216
    ^ Starinar,Books 45-46,by Srpsko arheološko društvo,Arheološki institut (Belgrade, Serbia),page 33
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    ^ Naissos
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    The problem of Serbian People is that they have always lived in their myths propagated by their nationalist extremists. In this case, they can not effectively argue this thread but they "encounter" the provocative term "jul".


    Is Kosovo Serbia? We ask a historian.

    Noel Malcolm
    The Guardian, Tuesday 26 February 2008


    "Kosovo is Serbia", "Ask any historian" read the unlikely placards, waved by angry Serb demonstrators in Brussels on Sunday. This is rather flattering for historians: we don't often get asked to adjudicate. It does not, however, follow that any historian would agree, not least because historians do not use this sort of eternal present tense.

    History, for the Serbs, started in the early 7th century, when they settled in the Balkans. Their power base was outside Kosovo, which they fully conquered in the early 13th, so the claim that Kosovo was the "cradle" of the Serbs is untrue.

    What is true is that they ruled Kosovo for about 250 years, until the final Ottoman takeover in the mid-15th century. Churches and monasteries remain from that period, but there is no more continuity between the medieval Serbian state and today's Serbia than there is between the Byzantine Empire and Greece.

    Kosovo remained Ottoman territory until it was conquered by Serbian forces in 1912. Serbs would say "liberated"; but even their own estimates put the Orthodox Serb population at less than 25%. The majority population was Albanian, and did not welcome Serb rule, so "conquered" seems the right word.

    But legally, Kosovo was not incorporated into the Serbian kingdom in 1912; it remained occupied territory until some time after 1918. Then, finally, it was incorporated, not into a Serbian state, but into a Yugoslav one. And with one big interruption (the second world war) it remained part of some sort of Yugoslav state until June 2006.

    Until the destruction of the old federal Yugoslavia by Milosevic, Kosovo had a dual status. It was called a part of Serbia; but it was also called a unit of the federation. In all practical ways, the latter sense prevailed: Kosovo had its own parliament and government, and was directly represented at the federal level, alongside Serbia. It was, in fact, one of the eight units of the federal system.

    Almost all the other units have now become independent states. Historically, the independence of Kosovo just completes that process. Therefore, Kosovo has become an ex-Yugoslav state, as any historian could tell you.

    · Noel Malcolm is a senior research fellow at All Souls College, Oxford. He is the author of Kosovo: A Short History

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unurautare View Post
    "Jul Orthodox monasteries in Kosova are Albanian heritage" I don't have time to read all that's written but some of the Muslim Albanians here didn't say a peep about Orthodox Albanians when I confronted them on some "issues"(although I mentioned them and their contributions in Romania in a past thread),they probably regard them as non-ethnic\"not true" Albanians - my point is to ask what do you think about this? are Christians in Albania regarded as "different people"? (my guess is yes).
    It's right then when i say that people know nothing about Albanians...

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    Quote Originally Posted by safinator View Post
    It's right then when i say that people know nothing about Albanians...
    So, enlight them ,what they should know ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Himera View Post
    So, enlight them ,what they should know ...
    They should know that muslim, chatolic, orthodox, atheist, evangelist, whateverist albanians...are the all the same. Doesen't exist any hate between us because of religion or anything else.

    There are a lot of mixed marriages and nobody care or ask about religion of the couple.
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    M. Cerabregu in his Distortionism in Historiography, 19th century falsifications, New York, 1995 has provided a brief history of Kosovo’s Churches which takes a broader view of history and concludes that the Serbia claim that Kosovo’s churches are Serbian has no basis. Being that the Albanians were in the area before VI century, and have continued to use the churches through the centuries they also have a right to consider most of the churches and monasteries as their own. Below is a summary of Cerabregu’s work. The names of churches are reflective of how the Albanians of the area identified these centers of worship.

    The Church of Shen Meria (St. Mary)
    The church was built by Byzantine ecclesiastic builders in downtown Prizren. Its Albanian-Byzantine basilica is the most original among churches. Conspicuous in the central section a double headed eagle dominates the altar. In 1326 reference about the Prizrendi archbishopric, indicates that history of Shen Meria starts at a distant past. It was chatered by various Byantine Emperors. Chart of Nemanja (according to Albanian etymology: nem+anja, literally meaning big+side)) indicates that the church was previously an old Byzantine archbishopry. Recent restoration (from a mosque to a church) revealed its original decorations. The double-headed eagle, in its color and design, painted as a fresco is an excellent copy of Comnens adapted symbol and testimony of emperor’s influence of authority.
    In Prizren is also located The Shen-Pjetri (St. Peter) Monastery which dates from Byzantine era. Original fresco paintings and inscriptions were in Greek. Other churches in this area are: The walls and dome of Church of the Holy Saviour, in the Steske area stand the ruins of a Byzantine era church, in Korishe is located Byzantine era monastery, inside the city of Prizren is situated St. Archangels Church.
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    The Shin Kolla (St. Nicholas)

    Further north, in the foothill of the lofty Albanian Alps, close to the river Bistrica, at the entrance of Rugova gorge is is situated Shin-Kolli (St. Nicholas) Church. The history of this monastery is closely linked to the life and deeds of a prominent Albanian Saint called Shin Kolla or Shin Kolli (St. Nicholas) during he Byzantine era. This church designation is preserved only among the Albanians. In the Slav literature the church is called Patriarchate of Peje-Pec, reflecting the preeminent role Emperor Dushan(according to Albanian etymology: dush being a prominent name and ab being a characteristic suffix), family had bestowed it.St. Nicholas chapel is situated in the southern part of the complex of three churches. The first church along the chapel is dedicated to our Lady of Odgria, the second church is dedicated to St. Dhimitri (us), and the third church is dedicated to the Holly Apostels. There is a narthex that connects the entrances of the three churches. In close proximity, archeologists have unearthed a site on which a church had existed, most likely dating from early Christianity.
    Dusan in 1345 he converted Church of Shin Kolli to being the seat of patriarchate. But with the Ottoman takeover, archbishopric of Ohrid took jurisdiction over the church and Patriarchate ceased to exist. Serbs were helped by their status as Ottoman vassals and allies. In 1557, as a reward for Serbian assistance against Hungary, The Sultan, accepted recommendation of Mehmet Pasha Sokolovic, of Boshnjak descend, and appointed latter’s brother Makarie Sokolovic as patriarch, thus leading to the restoration of the seat of the Patriarchate. The seat was abolished again in 1690, after an Albanian insurrection lead by an Albanian Catholic friar, and forced Patriarch Arsenie Cernojevic to move north. Only after the area was occupied by the Serbs in 1912, the Church was restored as a Serbian Patriarchate which lasted until after the Second World War, when the seat was again moved to the north.

    After adaption as a Slavic church, the Church experienced numerous restoration, although, the interior fresco painting of the existing church is representative of several periods. The original part of the church is preserved in architecture, while decorations and scripts have suffered changes.
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    Gashi Church (Visoki Decani)

    This church is erected in the western part of Decani, the center of the Albanian Gashi clan settlement. It is situated in the foothills of the Albanian Alps, on the right bank of river Bistrice, facing the Decani gorge. Due to its situation within the Gashi clan’s settlements, the church has been traditionally been identified as Kisha e Gashit=Gashi Church. It is an immense building encircled by high walls.
    The architect of the church was Franciscan friar Vito from Kotor. Architecturally, the construction represents a composition of Byzantine style (the dome), of Gothic (Catholic Church height), and Romanesque (shape of doors and windows) elements. The fresco painting, as well as other decorations were done by skilled Byzantine masters.
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    The Church of Ulipiana (Gracanica)

    This church was built in the site of the ancient Ulpiana, as it was called prior to Slavic invasion of the Balkans and Justiniana Secunda since the time of Justinian the Great. The Church stands on the foundation of a Christian sanctuary which was erected above the tomb of two early Christian martyrs, during the time of Diocletian.
    The church is considered a fine model of Byzantine architecture. Much of the building material was taken ready-made from the ruins of Classical Ulpiana. Walls contain stones with latin scripts, brick and tombstones from Roman times. The original fresco paintings have undergone renewal and changes in the course of centuries. The monastery played an important role as the residence of the archbishop from the time of its foundation in both Roman and Byzantine times.

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    The Church of Monte Argentaria or Nova Barda

    The Church is situated on a hilltop near the fortress of Nova Barda (Argjentaria), the location of a known as rich lead, silver and gold mine. Today the church is in ruins, probably since the time of barbarian invasions.
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    The Church of Zvecani

    The church is situated on the top of a conical hill where an Illyrian castle had existed. It was a Byzantine stronghold against barbarian invasions and during the time of Justinian the great was restored and enlarged. The high location of the church provides an unhindered view of Kosova Plain. In the central part of this high fortress stand the remains of a church built during the Middle Ages.
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    The Church of Banjska

    On the north of Mitrovica, on the left side of the Iber Valley stands a settlement and a church erected near a spa called Banjska. The monastery has been there before the barbarian invasions.

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    Little by little all the truth is finally emerging. The Catholic and Orthodox identity of Kosovo is Albanian heritage.

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