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Thread: Britain's Future Lies With America, Not Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieScott View Post
    If an economic melt down happens hopefully a recession will clean up the problems for us, nature will take hold as cultural Marxism and multiculturalism seem to only thrive in economic growth and prosperity...

    I do not wonder what will happen when the welfare and jobs dry up...
    Well yeah, I noticed that here. Labour are voted in during the good times but during recessions no one ever seems to see any credibility in their economic policies (because they usually spend like mad) and the Tories get in.

    When the economic climate gets tough, people start thinking about all the jobs going to foreigners and the cost of immigration.

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    Welfare won't dry up. The government will borrow money to pay it. The big business will keep lobbying them for increased immigration and they'll increase it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savant View Post
    What?! US and Canada are HIGHLY similar. As an American who's lived in Canada, I can assure you that's the case. America and Canada are about as alike as two nations get. In fact the entire Anglosphere is very similar US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are all very much alike.
    I surrender

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    With all the English speaking countries, never. With Europe, never.

    My opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aces High View Post
    Such as..?
    Alright, I was trying to be succint but I am happy to explain what changes I have in mind.

    Constitutionally, we need to bring an end to our countries extreme centralisation, and the restoration and innovation of a system of Limited Government in the Kingdom, to prevent the state from undermining our sovereignty and attacking the consensual structure of the British social organism.

    Regional Britain
    To the first point, this means bringing power back to the locales. I propose some combination of federalism and/or heavily strengthened counties. We should return to the historic counties, and grant each county a number of MPs based on a calculation on the county’s population, akin to how Electoral votes are assigned to States in America. This would effectively rubbish the Westerminsterites assertion that we need to change the constituency borders every 10 years to reflect population change, as change would be accommodated by a new calculation at each election, without attacking traditional local political units against the wishes of the people. Counties could still change on petition by the populace of a given county.

    A strong system of regional government should be achieved throughout the Kingdom, based on the counties or otherwise, and they should constitute the principle bodies of taxation for domestic needs in the country. This will rob central government of the ability to allocate the wealth of the nation into schemes it deems good from it’s specifically Westminster perspective with little regard for the wishes of our varied regions. It will also serve to reduce socialism in the country as money is spent more carefully in specific locales.

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    For the second point, the recreation of a Limited Government it will be necessary to innovate while recognising important strands of our traditional system of government. We must recognise that Limited Government died in Britain with the Parliament Act of 1911, when the House of Lords ceased to have the capacity for restricting action by the House of Commons. The above points about the status of the regions tie very much in to this process as it will serve to drain the capacity of central government to dominate our lives. Now I will discuss what form Westminster should, or could take, in this scenario.

    The House of Lords must once again represent a restraining influence on government. First, repeal the Parliament Act so the upper House can actually prevent legislation again (as opposed to simply delay it). Second, acknowledge that the current Lords Temporal are a joke, lacking any of the legitimacy of the Aristocratic Hereditary Peers. Our current collection of Life Peers should be done away with. The Monarch should no longer choose the Peers other than the Lords Spiritual (who I favour retaining) in her capacity as Head of the Church. The House of Lords should then be selected or voted (I favour selection) by either the regions or the counties, depending on which are to be the most prominent political unit in our new constitutional settlement, in this way they would act with definite regional interests in mind.

    As for the House of Commons, it’s high time we ended the shuffling and corruption of our political party system and require any MP sent to the House of Commons by a county to have been an occupant of said county for 5 years minimum. This would ensure MPs actually represent a location, a community and its interests, not an ambiguous party structure.

    Finally I advocate the introduction of set in stone constitutional rules, restricting what the government can do, unashamedly inspired by the American example. Historically this was unnecessary as the Monarch was able to full fill this role in conjunction with various statute laws once considered unalterable. In modern timed this is no longer practical and we need to provide something stronger. Most importantly the contents would dictate that sovereignty in this country flows bottom up; from the people to the county, then to the King-In-Parliament. Parliament would have no capacity for taking from the county/region what liberty is not freely given. Other inclusions I would favour would be a guarantee of property owners right to bear arms and some mechanism for giving the people the ability to restrict immigration by petition or vote. This constitution should be unalterable without agreement from a majority of counties/regions and a popular vote in favour of change.

    Thats quite long enough for one post, I'll discuss my ideas for the restructoring of our economic system later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan View Post
    With all the English speaking countries, never. With Europe, never.

    My opinion.
    Well yes. Here's the kinds of people who are on top of the 'English Speaking' world:



    ...and here's who's on the bottom (yet makes up most of the 'cultural output' and spreading of it to youth via hypermedia) :


    ^ thanks to 'cultural ties' people here started copying that 'anglosphere' look and attiude too.

    there is still a middle class of decent, succesful, conservative anglospherians though. Increasingly they look like this:


    'Michelle Malkin'. good ango name that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    We will always, when our backs are against the wall, side with our kinsfolk in the colonies. That how we managed to defeat Europe in WW2.

    see above for pictures of our 'kin folk' who we should team up with to destroy european 'enemies'.

    actually I don't think 'the man in the street' views americans as 'kin folk' in 2012. The reason is obvious: because they aren't anymore.


    Hey, guess what? today, America is not a white country and never will be again.
    Maybe 'anglosphere-ism' made sense 60 years ago, today it's a disgusting sentiment.
    and even 'then', we were getting shafted by the 'senior partner'.
    On the other hand, Europe will not necessarily 'lost', even if only eastern europe looks to remain 'white' in the future. If western europe 'goes under' and eastern europe becomes a 'bulwark' of 'european-ness', the natives left behind in the west will be most likely to gain ties and support from eastern europe, not anywhere else. They already said in the OP that 'nationalism is growing in europe.'so why run away from it? Only widespread collaboration of euro-nationalists can 'save' us, how the fuck is america going to? Why would we tie outselves to america over europe? it makes no sense whatsoever. the usual 'economic reasons' you talk about is shit just as economic justifications for policy 99.9% of the time always are (like they are with immigration) 'we must do this because economics blah blah blah'. You can't hide from a euro crisis by cosying up to america, or anywhere in the world, in the globalised economy. the best you can do is not be in the euro, and we aren't - cased close. the anglosphere 'English' language doesn't have any strong ethnic meaning today, it's the 'global language'. Likewise an 'anglo' name has no ethnic meaning even, in the anglosphere 'winston' is more likely to be a ghetto black than an upper class gentleman of english stock. this 'Anglosphere' crap of conservatives is pure sickness from a nationalist perspective. I hate you all!

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    LOL!!! What a crescendo of uneducated word vomit from a geopolitical ignorant who's never been to America. This place never fails to make me laugh...

    Yeah, because black music is NOT POPULAR AT ALL in Britain... LMAO! What a joke....



    Quote Originally Posted by Troll's Puzzle View Post
    Well yes. Here's the kinds of people who are on top of the 'English Speaking' world:

    ...and here's who's on the bottom (yet makes up most of the 'cultural output' and spreading of it to youth via hypermedia) :


    ^ thanks to 'cultural ties' people here started copying that 'anglosphere' look and attiude too.

    there is still a middle class of decent, succesful, conservative anglospherians though. Increasingly they look like this:
    LOL!! The American middle class is just all Asian... What a joke... LMAO! Not to invade your retard fantasies with any pesky little facts, but Asians only make up 4.8% of Americans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_American

    Yes they make up 6% of England: http://www.neighbourhood.statistics....lse&nswid=1600


    'Michelle Malkin'. good ango name that.
    Turns out that photograph looks more like England's middle class than America's... LOL!! What a nose dive...


    see above for pictures of our 'kin folk' who we should team up with to destroy european 'enemies'.
    Better yet, see above statistics which show how England has more "Asians" than does America....

    actually I don't think 'the man in the street' views americans as 'kin folk' in 2012. The reason is obvious: because they aren't anymore.
    Actually the average Englishman does view America as an ally, your average Brit isn't some ape shit kook like you. You are fringe in your country and thankfully for it, very few have such strange conspiratorial views towards America like you do. Your views are bat shit fringe in your nation, only shared by some small irrelevant, equally kooky corners of the 3rd world. Your ignorant, uneducated views in America are far removed from most of your countrymen.


    Hey, guess what? today, America is not a white country and never will be again.
    Actually we're about as white as England after you account for the black slave descendants which British and Europeans brought to our country to try to sabotage our future. We're about 67% white, while England is only 80% white. We have 13% blacks who are slave descendants. So if you remove the portion of slave descendants which European powers bitterly tried to sabotage our nation with we're actually EXACTLY as white as Britain. Of course, we aren't putting anyone in jail and stealing their children for "hate speech", like say...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pONVYjAd1wc

    Maybe 'anglosphere-ism' made sense 60 years ago, today it's a disgusting sentiment.
    Yes, making an enemy out of the most powerful nation on Earth, founded by men and authorities of your own nation, which are based on the same laws on customs, now THAT makes sense... LOL!!! LOL!!! LOL!!! Good thinking commrade What an idiot....
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    Thank god, most Britons are not fascists. Solidarity with America will be led by conservatives, with many of our left-wingers sharing the perspective too.

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    I don't think anyone will deny America's demographic problems. That stated, there are probably at least as many people of British descent in the US as there are in Britain. Showing photos of people like Michelle Malkin rings hollow in light of this.

    There's also very little to be gained in taking an aggressive, hostile posture toward the US for rather, erm, obvious reasons. It frankly amazes me how all of the unthinking anti-American fanatics think they can routinely snub us and not have consequences. I think they only do this because at bottom they recognize that we're not as evil as claimed, and won't respond to constant insult the way earlier powers would have. Even so, fascist and Marxist forms of anti-Americanism are dangerous, and have done great damage to our civilization already. Hopefully the afflicted will wake up or remain marginalized.

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