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    Quote Originally Posted by Treffie View Post
    Poems lose meaning when translated, but I think the following will need some sort of translation for there to be any meaning at all.

    Rhyfel (War) - by Hedd Wyn (he died at Passchendaele)

    Gwae fi fy myw mewn oes mor ddreng,
    A Duw ar drai ar orwel pell;
    O'i ol mae dyn, yn deyrn a gwreng,
    Yn codi ei awdurdod hell.

    Pan deimlodd fyned ymaith Dduw
    Cyfododd gledd i ladd ei frawd;
    Mae swn yr ymladd ar ein clyw,
    A'i gysgod ar fythynnod tlawd.

    Mae'r hen delynau genid gynt,
    Ynghrog ar gangau'r helyg draw,
    A gwaedd y bechgyn lond y gwynt,
    A'u gwaed yn gymysg efo'r glaw



    Why must I live in this grim age,
    When, to a far horizon, God
    Has ebbed away, and man, with rage,
    Now wields the sceptre and the rod?

    Man raised his sword, once God had gone,
    To slay his brother, and the roar
    Of battlefields now casts upon
    Our homes the shadow of the war.

    The harps to which we sang are hung,
    On willow boughs, and their refrain
    Drowned by the anguish of the young
    Whose blood is mingled with the rain
    Esthetically it doesn't seem as beautiful to me, but I am sure if pronounced it sounds much better. Very interesting and unique language though. Is it Gaelic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagitta Hungarica View Post
    Esthetically it doesn't seem as beautiful to me, but I am sure if pronounced it sounds much better. Very interesting and unique language though. Is it Gaelic?
    It's Welsh As Welsh poems go, the English translation is pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treffie View Post
    It's Welsh As Welsh poems go, the English translation is pretty good.
    Which of the Celtic literature are the most vast and developed? I mean from which Celtic languages?

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    Adam Asnyk, 1838–1897

    Do Mlodych

    Szukajcie prawdy jasnego plomienia!
    Szukajcie nowych, nie odkrytych drog...
    Za kazdym krokiem w tajniki stworzenia
    Coraz sie dusza ludzka rozprzestrzenia,
    I wiekszym staje sie Bog!

    Choc otrząśniecie kwiaty barwnych mitow,
    Choc rozproszycie legendowy mrok,
    Choc mgle urojen zedrzecie z blekitow,
    Ludziom niebianskich nie zbraknie zachwytow,
    Lecz dalej siegnie ich wzrok!

    Kazda epoka ma swe wlasne cele
    I zapomina o wczorajszych snach...
    Niescie wiec wiedzy pochodnie na czele
    I nowy udzial bierzcie w wiekow dziele,
    Przyszlosci podnoscie gmach!

    Ale nie depczcie przeszlosci oltarzy,
    Choc macie sami doskonalsze wzniesc;
    Na nich sie jeszcze swiety ogien żarzy
    I milosc ludzka stoi tam na strazy,
    I wy winniscie im czesc!

    Ze swiatem, ktory w ciemnosc już zachodzi
    Wraz z calą tęcza idealnych snow,
    Prawdziwa mądrosc niechaj was pogodzi –
    I wasze gwiazdy, o zdobywcy młodzi,
    W ciemnosciach pogasna znow!

    In English....:

    TO THE YOUNG

    The brightening flame of truth pursue,
    Seek to discover ways no human knows.
    With every secret now revealed to you,
    The soul of man expands within the new.
    And God still bigger grows!

    Although you may the flowers of myths remove,
    Although you may the fabulous dark disperse,
    And tear the mist of fancy from above;
    There’ll be no shortage of new things to love,
    Farther in the universe.

    Each epoch has its special goals in store,
    And soon forgets the dreams of older days.
    So, bear the torch of learning in the fore,
    And join the making of new eras’ lore.
    The House of the Future raise!

    But trample not the altars of the past!
    Although you shall much finer domes erect.
    The holy flames upon the stones still last,
    And human love lives there and guards them fast,
    And them you owe respect!

    Now with the world that vanishes from view,
    Dragging down the perfect rainbow of delight,
    Be gently reconciled in wisdom true.
    Your stars, oh, youthful conquerors, they, too,
    Will fade into the night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagitta Hungarica View Post
    Which of the Celtic literature are the most vast and developed? I mean from which Celtic languages?
    I should imagine that Irish and Welsh are the languages with most literature written. Don't have much in-depth knowledge of how the Irish system works, but in Welsh there is the Eisteddfod which encourages people to excel in literature from a very young age. Cadeirio'r Bardd (Chairing of the Bard) is the award given to the best piece of poetry written during the year. It's taken very seriously and presented by people in very funny clothes


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    [SONETO DO CARALHO POTENTE]

    Porripotente heroe, que uma cadeira
    Sustens na poncta do caralho teso,
    Pondo-lhe em riba mais por contrapeso
    A cappa de baetão da alcoviteira:

    Teu casso é como o ramo da palmeira,
    Que mais se eleva, quando tem mais peso;
    Si o não conservas açaimado e preso,
    É capaz de foder Lisboa inteira!

    Que forças tens no horrido marsapo, [hórrido]
    Que assentando a dysforme cachamorra
    Deixa connos e cus feitos num trappo!

    Quem ao ver-te o tesão há não discorra
    Que tu não podes ser sinão Priapo,
    Ou que tens um guindaste em vez de porra?

    Bocage


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    I like Shakespeare, the English Romantics, and this fellow:

    THE BLOSSOM.
    by John Donne


    LITTLE think'st thou, poor flower,
    Whom I've watch'd six or seven days,
    And seen thy birth, and seen what every hour
    Gave to thy growth, thee to this height to raise,
    And now dost laugh and triumph on this bough,
    Little think'st thou,
    That it will freeze anon, and that I shall
    To-morrow find thee fallen, or not at all.

    Little think'st thou, poor heart,
    That labourest yet to nestle thee,
    And think'st by hovering here to get a part
    In a forbidden or forbidding tree,
    And hopest her stiffness by long siege to bow,
    Little think'st thou
    That thou to-morrow, ere the sun doth wake,
    Must with the sun and me a journey take.

    But thou, which lovest to be
    Subtle to plague thyself, wilt say,
    Alas ! if you must go, what's that to me?
    Here lies my business, and here I will stay
    You go to friends, whose love and means present
    Various content
    To your eyes, ears, and taste, and every part ;
    If then your body go, what need your heart?

    Well then, stay here ; but know,
    When thou hast stay'd and done thy most,
    A naked thinking heart, that makes no show,
    Is to a woman but a kind of ghost.
    How shall she know my heart ; or having none,
    Know thee for one?
    Practice may make her know some other part ;
    But take my word, she doth not know a heart.

    Meet me in London, then,
    Twenty days hence, and thou shalt see
    Me fresher and more fat, by being with men,
    Than if I had stay'd still with her and thee.
    For God's sake, if you can, be you so too ;
    I will give you
    There to another friend, whom we shall find
    As glad to have my body as my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexDelarge View Post
    [SONETO DO CARALHO POTENTE]

    Porripotente heroe, que uma cadeira
    Sustens na poncta do caralho teso,
    Pondo-lhe em riba mais por contrapeso
    A cappa de baetão da alcoviteira:

    Teu casso é como o ramo da palmeira,
    Que mais se eleva, quando tem mais peso;
    Si o não conservas açaimado e preso,
    É capaz de foder Lisboa inteira!

    Que forças tens no horrido marsapo, [hórrido]
    Que assentando a dysforme cachamorra
    Deixa connos e cus feitos num trappo!

    Quem ao ver-te o tesão há não discorra
    Que tu não podes ser sinão Priapo,
    Ou que tens um guindaste em vez de porra?

    Bocage

    I could swear I was reading a poem in Latin. I am curious if Portuguese changed much in form after Bocage, and the late 18th century?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagitta Hungarica View Post
    I could swear I was reading a poem in Latin. I am curious if Portuguese changed much in form after Bocage, and the late 18th century?
    I posted that poem as a joke, it's about some guy's huge dick. But that poet is from my city so...
    He has other more normal and serious poems.

    Our language changed somewhat compared to that. Some words are now written very differently and others don't exist at all. Still i understand 100% of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan View Post
    I like Shakespeare, the English Romantics, and this fellow:
    I also like this period of the English language, 16-17th centuries, when basically Modern English was shaped. It has an untouched charm to it, more politeness, and fancy display of expressions.

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