Napoleon Bonaparte Belonged To Haplogroup E1b1b1c1* (E-M34*)

[Osweo]

Indeed, which is why I highlighted what Agrippa was thinking even if he didn't literally write "the Jews" that time.

You have been mentally hobbled. The type of programming involved causes you to zoom in on the bits that aren't flattering to the Jews, and harp on about that, as though it were a mortal sin. The Jews are not above criticism, as a people, and nor are we. You're ready enough to treat the Russians in as dismissive a way as you imply Agrippa is doing of the Jews. Of course, the Russkies are a PERMITTED target.

Subtleties of language are enough to provoke thoughts in people without a key element even being said. That is one example of subversion.

I see nothing underhand in Agrippa. It's all laid out as plain as day, with full comprehensivity.

He also writes a few good posts, even if he is wrong on a few levels he at least seems to think about things before posting and can sometimes go into quite some detail.

But Joe's with the Establishment. All the thinking behind his ideas has already been done. We're programmed to slide into the same habits of thought ourselves. This is the subtle subversion I'm talking about. It's easy for a moderately intelligent individual to make Joe posts. There's no 'thinking out of the box' involved at all.

What I dislike here is posts with a lack of thought, I'm quite analytical and I hate short posts on trivial matters.
I tend to follow a few members, all very different and all generally thinkers - Civis Batavi, McCarthy (the contrast!) and yourself. Two lefties and a conservative. There are others too, but those three spring to mind.

What a troika! Imagine us locked on a small boat together?

Agrippa verges on insulting our ethnicities directly, but it is only ever one native ethnicity he insults and that is the English. His mind doesn't seem to give a fuck about the huge, disproportionate role played by the other ethnicities, instead it is always the evil English up to their no-good tricks.

He's not talking about us ineffectual powerless proles who actually make up the body of our nation!

He's talking about the rulers. And look at what happened with our elite. There were internal struggles before the present canny lot got in. See the defeat of the Jacobite Tories for an example of a might have been. 1688, our 'Glorious Revolution', is the key event, near enough.

And we're concerned with the present and recent past, and the City of London is the centre of it. It was elsewhere in other times, but it's moved around, and we happen to be the most direct host at the moment, so of course our state gets the bigger part of the rap!

Agrippa can read this and try and refute me all he wants, but he has a thinly veiled hatred of Anglos in general that I can hardly be pleased about.

You take it too personally, and identify yourself too much with a system that doesn't give a fuck for you or your family, or your ethnic groups welfare as a whole.

[Joe McCarthy]

Originally Posted by Osweo
But Joe's with the Establishment. All the thinking behind his ideas has already been done. We're programmed to slide into the same habits of thought ourselves. This is the subtle subversion I'm talking about. It's easy for a moderately intelligent individual to make Joe posts. There's no 'thinking out of the box' involved at all.

My views are only relatively establishmentarian in international relations. They also happen to be the most pro-preservation though of the choices before us. The wretched preferences of the politically fringe find no worse expression than in the realm of geopolitics. The sheer absurdity of people who claim to want to save white people, or whatever, and then support regimes like North Korea or Iran is fortunately more funny than it is dangerous, but highlights the irrelevance of such sorts.

[Sturmgewehr]

I am somewhat different - E1b1b1a2 - part of M78 (E-V13). This is the one associated with ancient Greek expansion.

in Central Europe and Northern Europe maybe but in the Balkans it is associated with the Neolithic Migrations that happened 10 000 - 15 000 Years ago.

[Catrau]

F**k Napoleon!!!

[Albion]

You have been mentally hobbled. The type of programming involved causes you to zoom in on the bits that aren't flattering to the Jews, and harp on about that, as though it were a mortal sin. The Jews are not above criticism, as a people, and nor are we. You're ready enough to treat the Russians in as dismissive a way as you imply Agrippa is doing of the Jews. Of course, the Russkies are a PERMITTED target.

Rubbish, I don't like Jews being here in the same way that I don't like Muslims or any other non-Europeans being here too.
I just grow tired of these theories that somehow we in the Anglosphere must be scheming away with them simply because they've moved here and are prominent in banking.
Well tell me a country in the West where that isn't the case? They moved here from Central Europe in the first place after they were originally expelled, some people blame Cromwell but I blame Central European states for putting them into positions of power through pushing them into banking in the first place.

This is not about sticking up for Jews or opposing them, it is about these silly little theories that more often than not link us to them, us evil bloody plotters that we are.

Do you not see why I don't like the guy yet?

Russians are no different from Americans in my thinking, I will write whatever the hell I feel like. If I disagree with a policy of their state I shall say, if I agree then I shall write as such. There is no animosity towards Russians here, I just happen to dislike their politics and you're reading more into this than there really is.

The fact that you're all too ready to criticize America whilst dismissing me for criticizing Russia really makes me think you are not quite so neutral and unbiased as you like to portray yourself.
Stop targeting me on Russia for god sake, you won't convert me. I'll develop a positive view about it if I see what I perceive as positive developments.

I see nothing underhand in Agrippa. It's all laid out as plain as day, with full comprehensivity.

But Joe's with the Establishment. All the thinking behind his ideas has already been done. We're programmed to slide into the same habits of thought ourselves. This is the subtle subversion I'm talking about. It's easy for a moderately intelligent individual to make Joe posts. There's no 'thinking out of the box' involved at all.

I know Joe is of the "patriotic conservative" sort but have you read some of the posts on Apricity? I visit it to read interesting posts, not all these little flame wars.

What a troika! Imagine us locked on a small boat together?

Well that is about as good as it gets I'm afraid. I can imagine it, McCarthy would be like Bligh and you and Civis would be in Pitcairn by now. I'm not sure about me, but I can guess what you'd say.

He's not talking about us ineffectual powerless proles who actually make up the body of our nation!

I know, but he generalises all too easily. This is about my nation being portrayed as the bad guy when it is only the ruling classes and when the same is true of most of Western Europe.
As a socialist you should understand this Osweo, why the hell are we to sit back whilst our decent working class people are portrayed as a nation of evil schemers?

You take it too personally, and identify yourself too much with a system that doesn't give a fuck for you or your family, or your ethnic groups welfare as a whole.

I know all about the system. I've read all about it, including some of the stuff which would be on Agrippa's reading list.
Rather than generalised talk that such and such a nation is bad we must instead actually target the very people who cause it. This class of people tends to be very international and transcends borders easily so it is a folly to say that a nations are responsible.