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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny View Post
    But, about 3400 B.C. Egypt civilization began to spread up the
    Nile River, bringing it in close contact with the black Nubians to the
    south. Soon they were using Blacks for slave labor and Egypt became
    history's first melting pot.

    In time the infusion of Negro blood worked itself up from the
    bottom of Egyptian society. The slaves were eventually freed, received
    political equality, and took posts of authority in government.

    By the time of King Tut (1370-1352 B.C.) even the ruling classes
    had been mongrelized and Egypt had begun a tailspin downward.

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    he has any Sub-Saharan blood? Yes, he probably does, but that's not really what matters.
    This question is significant because it would be proof that Ancient Egypt's decline had a racial basis. Or at least it would show correlation.

    • Old Kingdoms: Built pyramids; created a civilization from nothing.
    • Later Kingdoms: Built nothing, dawdled away their time engaging in pointless wars, and managed decline until the end of Egyptian significance in global affairs. (They have never recovered).


    • Old Kingdoms: Fully-Caucasoid population(?)
    • Later Kingdoms: Even the aristocracy and kings were of mixed-blood?(!)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny View Post
    Old Kingdoms: Fully-Caucasoid population(?)
    Later Kingdoms: Even the aristocracy and kings were of mixed-blood?(!)


    Coincidence?
    I'd bet that the Egyptian population of the Later Kingdom was much the same as the Old Kingdom.

    Just how many Sub-Saharan Africans do you think Egypt imported?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seuthanan View Post
    I'd bet that the Egyptian population of the Later Kingdom was much the same as the Old Kingdom.
    So in your view, racial changes -- esp. in the dynamic/ruling classes -- had nothing whatsoever to do with Egypt's pathetic decline? :mmmm:

    Egypt's rise was an accident, Egypt's decline into patheticness and its production of nothing these past 3,500 years have been an accident and without underlying racial causes, as their racial stock never changed?
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    Default The significance of Ancient Egypt

    Egypt is vitally important to anyone who really wants to understand the workings of history. This is a country whose saga is so long and so varied that it provides, in effect, an excellent laboratory for the science of history. Any general theory of history that holds true for 5,000 or more years of Egypt’s existence must hold true for the world at large.
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    The average Egyptian of today, or even most members of the higher classes of that country, is partly Negroid, but the great pharaohs of olden times were clearly white.[1] Could this explain why Egypt was great in ancient times but is a fourth-rate nation today?

    Exactly what is actually known about the race or races of the ancient Egyptians? Most Egyptologists would argue that the ancient Egyptians were an ethnic group of the Caucasian race. ...

    Blacks have been present in Egypt from very early times, if not from the beginning. It has even been suggested by some scholars that Egyptian civilization only arose because there were both whites and blacks present, the whites to provide the ruling class and the blacks to provide the slaves, without whom the rulers would not have had the leisure time necessary to create a civilization. Therefore it is only to be expected that blacks have been depicted in ancient Egyptian art. But this certainly does not in itself prove that Negroes were preponderant in Egypt. Afrocentrists point to various busts showing Negro types in Egypt, but a curious thing about these busts is that they nearly all date from a late period, the 25th dynasty (730 B.C.-633 B.C.), a degenerate era, when Egypt had a Negroid pharaoh, Tahara, on the throne.

    The hot, dry sands of Egypt have preserved through more than 60 centuries the remains of countless multitudes of the earliest people known to have dwelt in the Nile Valley; and not the bones only, but also their skin and hair plus the muscles and organs of the body. Even such delicate tissues as the nerves and the brain and the lens of the eye are available for examination today. We are able to form a very precise idea of the structure of the body of the Proto-Egyptians (first Egyptians). For example the hair in almost all cases presented no resemblance whatever to the “woolly” appearance of Negro hair.

    Of the remains exhumed of these first Egyptians, according to Earnest Sevier Cox, “not more than 2 percent showed definitely a Negro admixture, and possibly an additional 2 percent showed a suspicion of Negro blood.”

    From the 18th dynasty (1580-1350 B.C.) to the 25th (663-525 B.C.) is a period of six centuries. They mark the decay of Egyptian civilization. During this period Egyptian initiative and ingenuity slowly declined. When a mulatto was received as king, religion had fallen from an ethical test for the life hereafter to a cult of animal worship. The early pharaohs built the pyramids and temples which stand today. The later pharaohs built nothing of significance; instead, they cut out the names of the early kings and inserted their names upon some of the greatest architectural achievements of the world. Art, science, and literature were dead.

    Egyptian contact with the Negro peoples to the south, beginning in prehistoric times, had been continuous. It is known that Negroes constituted a small percentage of the population prior to the dynastic age, and also that there were some mixed breeds even at this remote date. But this Negroid monarchy was the result of intermixture with a ruling class that was originally white. This miscegenation finally resulted in the extinction of Egyptian culture.
    Excertped from the Barnes Review (one of the best publications on Earth, IMO).
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    The early pharaohs built the pyramids and temples which stand today. The later pharaohs built nothing of significance; instead, they cut out the names of the early kings and inserted their names upon some of the greatest architectural achievements of the world. Art, science, and literature were dead.
    LOL; doesn't that sound exactly like something a black guy would do?
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    Hamitic pastoral Caucasians introduced most of the advanced features found in central African cultures, including metal working, irrigation and social structures.

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    African Med + Orientalid influences I guess?
    And I think lips can't be fully reconstructed, so they could be not so negroid looking in fact.
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    Default Egypt to soon announce King Tut DNA test results

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    Cairo - Egypt will soon reveal the results of DNA tests made on the world's most famous ancient king, the young Pharaoh Tutankhamun, to answer lingering mysteries over his lineage, the antiquities department said Sunday.

    Speaking at a conference, archaeology chief Zahi Hawass said he would announce the results of the DNA tests and the CAT scans on Feb. 17. The results will be compared to those made of King Amenhotep III, who may have been Tutankamun's grandfather.

    The effort is part of a wider program to check the DNA of hundreds of mummies to determine their identities and family relations. The program could help determine Tutankhamun's family lineage, which has long been a source of mystery.

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    They should have an internationally televised event showing just how not black the Egyptians were. Tut had an image of two Jewish captives tied to a post and the same of two black Nubians tied up in his tomb.

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