The Race Ladder

[Mary]

You're still wrong LATINOS, comes in many shapes and forms.

Brazil speaking in numbers has the largest white population in the Americas.

If you are White, then you are White. Whites in Brazil (or outside Europe in general) go into "Whites in other parts of the world".

Latinos come in different shapes and forms, and because of that it would be too difficult to divide them. But they all belong to a broad category with similar looks and behavior.

[Anthropologique]

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[Mary]

All whites in "other parts of the world" aren't the same. Both Aussies & Canadians are fairer than Americans mainly because many American immigrants came from the south of their motherlands or were either the "Insert nationality" speaking immigrant in the nation but weren't actualy ethnicaly apart of that country. A lot of ships also brought several other groups. Aussies would be lighter its just that they tan a lot. Canada had a lot more recent immigrants from Northern Europe in comparison to America & also the Italians Canada has mostly came from the North exact opposite of the states who mostly came from the South/Sicily & Quebecois are mostly not swarthy.

I would put it a tie between Canada & Australia with the United States 3rd. Also is Juanas really trying to pass off Brazilians as the whitest in the Americas? WTF Lol. They have THE largest mixed population and last i heard the majority of them claim black desent.

They go lower on the ladder because they descend from the lower levels of White society. The consequences of this are 1) they have race mixed more 2) they act less White.

[Mercury]

Colonials should be above European-born people, imo. We are pioneers, colonists, adventurous. Europeans aren't.

[Mary]

Colonials should be above European-born people, imo. We are pioneers, colonists, adventurous. Europeans aren't.

Think like this: which segments of society have left Europe over the centuries? The people of lower caste. It doesn't hold true for all countries, but I think that it's generally true over time.

[Gaztelu]

Colonials should be above European-born people, imo. We are pioneers, colonists, adventurous. Europeans aren't.

And you don't believe that some of those went home?

[The Lawspeaker]

Colonials should be above European-born people, imo. We are pioneers, colonists, adventurous. Europeans aren't.

If so then you should be below Africans because then colonials are living proof of dysgenics.

[Sturmgewehr]

The race ladder is not about classifying and grouping people according to anthropological categories. It's about what we can see with our own eyes, what is obvious to most people.

If the race ladder you talking about has nothing to do with Biology and Anthropology then what does it have to do with.

None of the things you have posted, none of your arguments u have made are obvious, they are fallible observations, if that is what u base your argument on then your Race ladder is weak and unsubstantial.

This is why I talk about practicality. If we had to classify (a very popular past time on anthro boards) and gene test every person in order to place him on the ladder, the ladder would not be very practical and hence lose it's usefulness.

Yes it would be a lot more practical than the fallible observations and perceptions of an everyday person.

If you say Race ladder depends on personal perceptions and first hand observations then you can definitely never rely on your laughable race ladder, people put a lot of effort, experiment to prove something is what they say it is through scientific method whereas your Race Ladder is just a bunch of nonsense.

erything can be related to and determined by race.

HOW??? Explain.

Of course there is racial value. It would be plain ignorant to deny this. Of course, it is also a strategy people use in order to climb the ladder or not appear as low as they are on the ladder.

No it is not, to claim this makes u look ignorant, just because you have more people and more guns and you ruin a culture who has invested a lot on science and developed or made new discoveries it doesn't mean you are superior to them, it means you are wilder and more blood thirsty than them, just like when the Vandals Ruined Rome, by no means can you say Vandals were superior to Roman.

There is no such a thing as Racial value and u still failed to determine what Racial value is and how you determine it.

This is why subhumanism is the determining factor. South Africa is a regional power in Africa. Do you want to live there? Japan is an advanced society, they let their own people starve if they can't find work. Is that not subhumanism?

And what is Subhumanism ?? since you categorized yourself as subhuman tell us what it is ??

Of course I don't wanna live in Africa but I don't wanna live in Norway either, I don't wanna live in France Either, how does this make an argument, is this an argument from preference ???

Japan is an Advanced society and different IQ statistics have shown that Japan has one of the top 3 Highest IQs in the world, that can definitely be considered as a denotement for superiority but of course not the concluding indicator.

and no that is not subhumanism.

You are cherry picking paltry arguments to prove your point, what about cases when in Austria a Father has held his daughter prisoner in his basement for 20 years and made her 3 kids, or Serial killers in Europe or Mothers burying their kids alive in France, shit like this, isn't this an indicator for subhumanism?

Evidence is all around us. What specific evidence do you want?

They are so around us that you are not able to present a single one .

Is this because your evidence are a bunch of Quote Minings, Cherry pickings and generalizations ???

The hierarchy I have presented is all derived from subhumanism. As I have already mentioned, the level of civilization vs savagery. Think about which race you yourself look down on (gypsies for instance) and why.

Many members here trashed ur subhumanism argument easily because it is weak, not specific and it makes a whole world of generalizations.

If Subhumanism is valid and considered scientific then Hand Palm reading is a Medical process.

In very real terms you cannot climb the ladder. This is true. That's why people try to make it seem like we're all the same. If this Tamil claims that all races are equal, he appears equal to White people. That means that he (along with all the other races) is on the same level of the ladder as Whites.

This is what I am talking about, you are going from THIS TAMIL to ALL TAMILS or to RACE, that is generalization based on weak arguments.

This is a logical Fallacy, of course a Tamil would be Superior to 80% of white people if he has a Engineering Degree, makes $200K per year, a tested 130 IQ, has a lot of money, contributes a lot to his society and many other personal characteristic that will make him Superior to 80 - 90% of white people.

This has absolutely nothing to do with social status.

Yes it does, everything you stated has more to do with Social status than Race.

Or he will marry a White woman to make it seem like his race has a higher value than it really does. Because if a White has chosen to marry him, it appears as though he is worthy of being accepted into White society, and hence being on the same level of the ladder as Whites.

That is plain stupid and unsubstantial, what about white people marrying middle easterns, Blacks and so on???

If it is a law that everyone wants to go up the Racial Ladder then how come this doesn't apply to Whites?? how come Whites don't wanna move up the racial ladder and marry a black who is lower than him.

If he has offspring with this White woman, the offspring will not be considered White, but Tamil. It will however have a very high status (racially) among Tamils. If his offspring continues to mix with White people, they might eventually reach Whiteness.

You can have high status amongst Tamils only if u have money, u don't need to marry a white woman, plus I fail to see how Tamils consider whites superior ???

Now I'm talking only about race, and I'm not mixing in behavior, which is a second factor. But you asked about the race aspect, so I'm sticking to that for now.

and till now u have explained absolutely nothing, if by explaining you mean assuming and generalizing then that is a different story.

Being Whiter in skin is not what makes you better. That is just a general rule when it comes to the ladder: those who are better tend to also be Whiter.

This is false and stupid, and if u claim this u need to prove it and I think u will need a lot more than your usual arguments of composition, argument of generalization and other logical fallacies to prove this.

But being higher race obviously makes you better, because higher races are more civilized and lower races are more subhuman.

Except that there is no such thing as higher race.

The race ladder is a very broad concept. I understand your questions, but it will be easier if you ask more specifically.

The race ladder is the dumbest concept I have came across, I don't even consider it a concept, I consider it unsubstantial rambling.

[Magyar the Conqueror]

Higher Races
Hungarians

Lower Races
Everyone else

[Alex Delarge]

very minor Celtic influences - words like broa (a type of bread), britar (to break rocks), for example. Some phonetic elements in Portuguese may also be Celtic in origin.

This is Celtic? I never knew...




but according to wiki it's gothic:

Etimologia

O substantivo broa deriva do vocábulo da língua gótica brauth, que significa "pão"[1].

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broa